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    Wow. Does this really wanna tell me that roughly every 2nd US-american I would in the US of A is a cult-loving, children-spanking, homophobic, misogynistic silly shitstick of an excuse for a decent human being? Explains the “president”.

    Did I mention: wow?

    Can only hope this is some totally stupid agenda-pushing crap, and only 20 people were interviewed. In front of some church or so.

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      I can guarantee you the people who voted these things as being “morally wrong” only believe it’s wrong if someone else is doing it

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        I think hypocrisy is somehow implied with the top3 “immoralities” here.

        Especially homophobia. I always had the suspicion, that the graph, that shows “volume and intensity of voicing of anti-gay-sentiment” on the x-axis, and “actually being closeted gay themselves” on the y-axis, is a very straight line in a 45° arc of both.

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          Actually, it’s the other way around. Gayness (the sexuality) doesn’t cause homophobia. Being homophobic causes you to have a fetish for gay stuff. These homophobic politicians being caught on grindr aren’t actually gay, they weren’t born gay. The fact that they see sex with men as wrong caused them to want it. They’re in it for the taboo.

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            That sounds too specific IMHO. I would say they’re born gay, but the people they surround themselves with say “gay is bad”, so they’re ashamed to come out. And to not be “caught” they fight it very loudly, so everyone can see how not gay the, are. Because only super straight guys fight the bad evil gays.

            Fuck a dude just because it’s forbidden? Unless you’re somehow into guys, this would still be pretty meh.

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              All sex is pretty meh for conservatives. At least the men they fuck are having fun. It’s more pleasurable to fuck someone who likes your cock than someone who’s disgusted by your existence like their wives are.

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      We surveyed 3,605 U.S. adults from March 24 to 30, 2025. Everyone who took part in this survey is a member of the Center’s American Trends Panel (ATP). This report also includes findings from a separate ATP survey of 8,937 U.S. adults conducted from May 5 to 11, 2025.

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        I have never met anyone who is a member of the “American Trends Panel”. (Or a Nielsen family for that matter). But somehow, these mysterious people with 2.5 kids and a dog represent “US Americans”.*

        *As a pageant contestant once described us.

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          I personally know at least one family who is a Nielsen household. You’re asked to keep your participation confidential which is probably why you don’t know anyone doing it.

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              Can I talk about being in a Nielsen panel or survey?

              Learn more

              No. Once you begin participating, we ask that you do not share that you’re part of Nielsen research. We ask that you do not discuss your role with people outside of your household, including on social media websites, such as Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. This helps keep our research as independent as possible.

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            Are they married with kids? I’ve always wondered if Nielsen ever tracks what single people watch, or college kids, or unmarried gay people. Doesn’t seem like it.

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          My family was a Nielsen family for a while back in the 1990s. Our parents basically only let us watch Sesame Street and a few other PBS shows. One of my friends was sort of alarmed, almost offended by this situation, like of all the people Nielsen should be seeking data from, how could it be us?

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        Thanks for killing my hopes that it was just 20 people. I didn’t wanna read the footnotes 😁

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      I’m from a MAGA cult fake hypocrite ‘Christian’ family like this.

      That I’ve had to ghost to the point they likely think I am dead, to finally stop their abuse and escape their dysfunction.

      Been trying to explain the level of moral depravity of the average American for around 25 years now… most people acted like I was being hysterical, untill very recently, when we elected basically the AntiChrist, certainly a insurrectionist rapist corrupt traitor conman, twice.

      Beyond 1/3 of the country openly and obviously being duplicitious anti-democracy theocrat bigots… almost everyone else just acted like that was fine, at every level of society, interpersonal to institutional, for my entire life.

      We, as Americans, deserve this.

      Everyone else does not.

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        Oh sweet (non-religious) jeez…yes, the american average numbnut probably deserves that. But the poor fucks like you, being open-minded in such a …well…that must really hurt, especially if it’s the own family that’s like that. As I always say: cut out toxicity in your life, no matter if it’s family or not. I simply couldn’t deal with such people. I only like to surround myself with people I like and respect.

        So, my condolences that you have to live there AND in such a family :( And yeah “christian” is almost always synonym for “xtreme hypocrite”

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      Unfortunately, it’s a pretty solid methodology (speaking from experience). That said, you must understand that the average person is religious and poorly educated.

      Actually quite a few of these “morals” aren’t even uniquely American, except for maybe the billionaire one. You’ll probably find an interesting mix of bad takes in most countries, even in well educated European countries. There are 8 billion people on this planet and a ton of them are just terrible.

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        I won’t argue with your closing sentence. Not at all. And sure, every country has a mixed bag of no-nos. But this fundamentally Christian shit is probably a usa-signature of which I’d be highly ashamed if I had to live there.

        I can’t say for any European country, not even my own, but I’d guess we aren’t that horrible with “morals”. Well, at least i hope so.

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          I’m thinking of South American, African, Middle East and some South/South East/Central Asian countries, which is a mix of poverty and/or religious factors (for quite a variety of factors). There are countries where pornography, homosexuality, gambling, etc, are just illegal on religious morality grounds. And don’t get me started on la chancla!

          As for Europe, I’m curious. I think it’d be better, on average, but a lot of the same moral roots exist there so who knows. Although I bet Finland is swell; they somehow keep being labeled the happiest county and these things are correlated, lol.

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            Oh sure, the combination of poverty and religion is the worst breeding ground for disturbed “morals”.

            I would surely say it’s much better in EU in general. And yeah, even we Germans look up to the Nordic countries like FI, NO, S. If I could stand the languages (they just sound horrible to my ears) I would’ve emigrated long ago 😁

            I also imagine some Asian countries to be much better (in the context of this discussion, not generally). Not the Islamic ones, obviously. If I could even dream of learning the language I’d be gone to China or maybe even Japan …