This is a weird amount of preoccupation to have with a subculture of mostly queer people who just watched too much Disney and read too much Warrior Cats or Animorphs as kids.
In general furries embrace their cringe and are unashamed of the stuff they enjoy, can’t say I see anything near as wholesome from the company you keep when you’re hand wringing about sexual degenerates that should be banned from schools.
So, sometimes I pretend to be a wizard and roll some dice about it. If one of my players showed up in armor it’d be badass. It’s a hobby. Few things are more cringe than furry hate.
No because they should bathe and take their body pillow to a group around that. Idgaf what kind of hat they wear though.
That’s the thing here, furry events are the time and place for furry stuff. It’s like how people dress weird and hit each other in dungeons and wrestling rings. People dress weird and say strange things in religious buildings. People dress weird, talk weird, pretend to be someone they aren’t, and often stink at Renaissance festivals. Times and places. I’m not gonna judge their hobby just like I won’t judge the SCA
Bullshit. That’s the same shit used against drag queens and crossdressers. People who were instrumental to lgbtq history. I’d have thought someone “not straight” would’ve known better.
I’d suggest you read the g/acc manifesto. Some people do believe they’re animals and should be encouraged to express their kinship with them. Queering society as such is something you should be all for if you’re “not straight”.
I say this as a trans woman who’s been around the community for a decade- identity is fucking complicated. Reductive logic like this is NOT applicable and actively harmful, even.
therian/xenogender people, you’re fucking awesome and I love you all.
And neither do most furries. It’s like saying gamers are fucked up because they wanna fuck Lara Croff and cosplay Let Me Solo Her. The weirdest parts of a community aren’t the only parts, or even the biggest parts. Plenty of furries just like watching Looney Tunes and Zootopia and making OCs.
The furries=sexual deviants line was what they once said about Trekkies, and it was as true then as it is now.
Put way better than I could say it, thank you. As somebody who’s been on the edge of that community for years as an artist, the hatred they get has always baffled me.
I can even agree that for a lot of cartoony media, depicting people as animals can give it a really cool/cute style. A lot of people have fond memories of reading the Redwall books, which took that to a logical and mature extension. But, having close association to all of the sexual stuff is where it gets bizarre and unlikable.
I’ll even go out on a limb; I really enjoyed Lauren Faust’s My Little Pony series. I thought there was some fun, inventive writing humor, good VA, and smooth animation; for a time. But there’s undeniably a ton of people that made obsession with that series really weird.
Edit: would like to clarify that I don’t have anything against furries. But saying there isn’t a sexual aspect about it, is not true.
I have a few furry friends as well, and they all are into the sexual aspect of it, one used to be a roommate, I always got a chuckle out of the animal noises they would make when having sex.
The sample they used is likely not representative of the whole fandom; they only interviewed 334 furries in the study, from a fandom made of millions of people. And the participants were all male, too.
…I can’t be the only one who actually reads these things, right?
OK but that’s very, very fucking different from saying that furries are attracted to animals like you originally said, and that’s what is really fucking offensive, especially considering that pretty much anyone who gets outed as an actual zoophile is swiftly exiled from the furry fandom
I didn’t say there was no sexual aspect to it, but I stand corrected that there’s some sexual aspect involved for the vast majority (at least of the men they interviewed). I wish the rest of that study wasn’t locked behind a paywall, 'cause I’m curious about the details now. I wanna know what they mean by “some aspect.” However, it’s disingenuous/misleading to say that furries are attracted to animals, as that’s zoophilia and is on the same level as pedophilia. Grouping the two together like that is like “MAPs” claiming they’re part of the LGBT. My general experience with furries is that the animal fuckers are treated on the same level as the Nazi furs.
Whenever this kind of thing comes up, though, I can’t help but think about the internet outrage from when they made Lola Bunny’s boobs smaller in the new Space Jam movie and wonder how many of those people are the same people who call furries gross, lmao.
Hey, is there some reason you changed the phrase that the researchers very consistently used, which was anthropomorphic animals, which they defined in the very first sentence as being like Bugs Bunny? You get how that is not the same as looking at a living rabbit and feeling sexual arousal, right?
I guess “most furries want to fuck characters like Bugs Bunny!!” was just obvious shit everyone already knew.
I did read your comment, which if you reread it yourself you might notice contains the sentence “Incorrect, most furries are attracted to animals” and no further clarification.
If you were trying to get across that you were not talking about fucking animals when you said “most furries are attracted to animals” and linked to a study about sexual attraction in furries you might want to edit that in, because it doesn’t actually say anything like that right now.
Non-furries love anthropomorphic animal characters. Our culture is full of them; all cultures are. Furries didn’t invent sports mascots, Looney Tunes, the Easter Bunny, Aesop’s fables, or the Egyptian pantheon. Obviously it’s not the appreciation for talking animals that people actually hate. So why is it that, out of all the weird subcultures that exist, the one that gets the most hate thrown at it is the one centered around a love of something universal to all human cultures?
It’s because the founders of the modern furry fandom were gay and poly, and the fandom has always had an overwhelmingly LGBT membership because it used to be the only non-fetish community that openly accepted gay and trans people. All anti-furry hate is either a negative reaction to the fandom’s queerness or a deliberate attempt to attack the LGBT community by proxy.
I’m sorry but the only way I can describe that perspective is “delusional”. First of all, I’m going to point out that by starting your conclusion with “All furry hate”, you’ve already revealed that you’re simply here to make generalizations instead of to be accurate. Nearly no statement that starts with “all”, “none”, “every”, etc. about such a large group (furry haters) is even worth considering.
Now that I’ve gotten that out of the way: No, people don’t hate furries because they’re LGBT. Most people know nothing about the movement or its founders, and don’t care to. People dislike the furry community because:
Fursuits look weird. Mascots and the easter bunny fall into this category too. Non-fursuit anthropomorphic animals (eg. Looney Tunes) are generally well-regarded, even somewhat if they’re from the furry community.
Someone told them about yiff or showed them a vore picture and now they hate all furries.
Their primary interactions with furries lead them into direct contact with “the weird kids” aka assorted cringy 12 year olds. Any community with a significant number of preteens will have this same repulsive effect on older teenagers and young adults, or even other preteens. See also: Fortnite, Skibidi Toilet, FNAF to some extent, Roblox, etc.
That’s it. There’s no grand anti-lgbt conspiracy. Furries are just weird. If you want, I have access to a discord server that’s like 60-70% queer and I can make a google form to prove this.
it’s both fucking insane and scary. remember that furry hate has always been thinly veiled homophobia
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This is a weird amount of preoccupation to have with a subculture of mostly queer people who just watched too much Disney and read too much Warrior Cats or Animorphs as kids.
In general furries embrace their cringe and are unashamed of the stuff they enjoy, can’t say I see anything near as wholesome from the company you keep when you’re hand wringing about sexual degenerates that should be banned from schools.
HEY i resemble that remark.
You can not be homophobic and have similar thoughts on a subject with a group that is.
Very little has a strictly black and white separation in this world, it’s all shades of grey.
Go tell that to uranium
Gays. Black people. Non Christians. Your exact statement has been said about all of them.
Saying something is fucked up has been said about a lot of things. I’m sure there’s someone who’s said it’s fucked up to put pineapple on a pizza.
Also you do realise those are things people are born as? Whereas no furry was born a non-human.
The fact you would even compare them is a a revile as 4Chan trolls trying to link “maps” to LGBT.
Furries don’t think they’re non human hon.
Furrys don’t claim they’re actually animals.
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So, sometimes I pretend to be a wizard and roll some dice about it. If one of my players showed up in armor it’d be badass. It’s a hobby. Few things are more cringe than furry hate.
The key difference being you’re playing a game.
If one of your players showed up wearing a fedora, hentai body pillow, and hadn’t bathed in 7 days would you still be as happy?
No because they should bathe and take their body pillow to a group around that. Idgaf what kind of hat they wear though.
That’s the thing here, furry events are the time and place for furry stuff. It’s like how people dress weird and hit each other in dungeons and wrestling rings. People dress weird and say strange things in religious buildings. People dress weird, talk weird, pretend to be someone they aren’t, and often stink at Renaissance festivals. Times and places. I’m not gonna judge their hobby just like I won’t judge the SCA
Bullshit. That’s the same shit used against drag queens and crossdressers. People who were instrumental to lgbtq history. I’d have thought someone “not straight” would’ve known better.
You’d be surprised. I’ve even encountered a lot of gay people who are against the ‘T’ or the ‘BT’ in LGBT.
Being gay certainly makes you more likely to be progressive, but I’ve learned it definitely doesn’t guarantee it.
Plenty of gay people are regressive, hateful fuckwits.
Sexuality and gender are not the same as an animal.
Don’t compare them.
I’d suggest you read the g/acc manifesto. Some people do believe they’re animals and should be encouraged to express their kinship with them. Queering society as such is something you should be all for if you’re “not straight”. I say this as a trans woman who’s been around the community for a decade- identity is fucking complicated. Reductive logic like this is NOT applicable and actively harmful, even. therian/xenogender people, you’re fucking awesome and I love you all.
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… Hey, how bad are your delusions that you think chocolate is people?
TIL religion is an immutable personal characteristic
Nobody is born religious, therefore everyone is born non-Christian.
True, but it’s obviously different from race, sex, etc. It’s closer to nationality, because it affects your upbringing but can change over time.
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You don’t like Bugs Bunny?
I don’t want to fuck Bugs Bunny or be him.
I like pizza, I’m not a Pizza-ie.
And neither do most furries. It’s like saying gamers are fucked up because they wanna fuck Lara Croff and cosplay Let Me Solo Her. The weirdest parts of a community aren’t the only parts, or even the biggest parts. Plenty of furries just like watching Looney Tunes and Zootopia and making OCs.
The furries=sexual deviants line was what they once said about Trekkies, and it was as true then as it is now.
Best explanation:
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1334497-furries-furry
Put way better than I could say it, thank you. As somebody who’s been on the edge of that community for years as an artist, the hatred they get has always baffled me.
I can even agree that for a lot of cartoony media, depicting people as animals can give it a really cool/cute style. A lot of people have fond memories of reading the Redwall books, which took that to a logical and mature extension. But, having close association to all of the sexual stuff is where it gets bizarre and unlikable.
I’ll even go out on a limb; I really enjoyed Lauren Faust’s My Little Pony series. I thought there was some fun, inventive writing humor, good VA, and smooth animation; for a time. But there’s undeniably a ton of people that made obsession with that series really weird.
Incorrect, most furries are attracted to animals.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30806867/
Edit: would like to clarify that I don’t have anything against furries. But saying there isn’t a sexual aspect about it, is not true.
I have a few furry friends as well, and they all are into the sexual aspect of it, one used to be a roommate, I always got a chuckle out of the animal noises they would make when having sex.
My new place is more soundproof, lol.
The sample they used is likely not representative of the whole fandom; they only interviewed 334 furries in the study, from a fandom made of millions of people. And the participants were all male, too.
…I can’t be the only one who actually reads these things, right?
2000 is considered the perfect size for surveys. Anymore and you’re wasting resources on diminishing margins of error.
Well out of curiosity I checked the reddit furry sex groups, hundreds of thousands of members. But sure, the study is wrong.
As long as they aren’t into fucking animals or children, I don’t give a fuck.
I didn’t mean to offend you furries, but the sexual aspect is a huge part of it, not sure why you are in denial. https://furscience.com/research-findings/appendix-1-previous-research/summer-2020/
OK but that’s very, very fucking different from saying that furries are attracted to animals like you originally said, and that’s what is really fucking offensive, especially considering that pretty much anyone who gets outed as an actual zoophile is swiftly exiled from the furry fandom
Bruh, take anything and you can probably find a sexual aspect about it.
There’s a sexual aspect about Sports Illustrated. I’m not going to turn around and say everyone who subscribes to Sports Illustrated is a pervert.
Facts. I mean, I know I don’t need to, but I’m going to quote Rule 34 in its entirety:
Take anything and I guarantee you, someone, somewhere, has sexualized it. And if not, there is Rule 35, which states
Some can interpret this as, “If you discover that something has no porn, you have a responsibility to make it.”
I didn’t say there was no sexual aspect to it, but I stand corrected that there’s some sexual aspect involved for the vast majority (at least of the men they interviewed). I wish the rest of that study wasn’t locked behind a paywall, 'cause I’m curious about the details now. I wanna know what they mean by “some aspect.” However, it’s disingenuous/misleading to say that furries are attracted to animals, as that’s zoophilia and is on the same level as pedophilia. Grouping the two together like that is like “MAPs” claiming they’re part of the LGBT. My general experience with furries is that the animal fuckers are treated on the same level as the Nazi furs.
Whenever this kind of thing comes up, though, I can’t help but think about the internet outrage from when they made Lola Bunny’s boobs smaller in the new Space Jam movie and wonder how many of those people are the same people who call furries gross, lmao.
Hey, is there some reason you changed the phrase that the researchers very consistently used, which was anthropomorphic animals, which they defined in the very first sentence as being like Bugs Bunny? You get how that is not the same as looking at a living rabbit and feeling sexual arousal, right?
I guess “most furries want to fuck characters like Bugs Bunny!!” was just obvious shit everyone already knew.
If you read my comment intead of just rage replying you would have saw the part I said I wasn’t talking about fucking animals.
I did read your comment, which if you reread it yourself you might notice contains the sentence “Incorrect, most furries are attracted to animals” and no further clarification.
If you were trying to get across that you were not talking about fucking animals when you said “most furries are attracted to animals” and linked to a study about sexual attraction in furries you might want to edit that in, because it doesn’t actually say anything like that right now.
Idk man that doesn’t quite sound like hate to me. More of a sting dislike. I think the point still stands.
This is a wild take
Non-furries love anthropomorphic animal characters. Our culture is full of them; all cultures are. Furries didn’t invent sports mascots, Looney Tunes, the Easter Bunny, Aesop’s fables, or the Egyptian pantheon. Obviously it’s not the appreciation for talking animals that people actually hate. So why is it that, out of all the weird subcultures that exist, the one that gets the most hate thrown at it is the one centered around a love of something universal to all human cultures?
It’s because the founders of the modern furry fandom were gay and poly, and the fandom has always had an overwhelmingly LGBT membership because it used to be the only non-fetish community that openly accepted gay and trans people. All anti-furry hate is either a negative reaction to the fandom’s queerness or a deliberate attempt to attack the LGBT community by proxy.
I’m sorry but the only way I can describe that perspective is “delusional”. First of all, I’m going to point out that by starting your conclusion with “All furry hate”, you’ve already revealed that you’re simply here to make generalizations instead of to be accurate. Nearly no statement that starts with “all”, “none”, “every”, etc. about such a large group (furry haters) is even worth considering.
Now that I’ve gotten that out of the way: No, people don’t hate furries because they’re LGBT. Most people know nothing about the movement or its founders, and don’t care to. People dislike the furry community because:
Fursuits look weird. Mascots and the easter bunny fall into this category too. Non-fursuit anthropomorphic animals (eg. Looney Tunes) are generally well-regarded, even somewhat if they’re from the furry community.
Someone told them about yiff or showed them a vore picture and now they hate all furries.
Their primary interactions with furries lead them into direct contact with “the weird kids” aka assorted cringy 12 year olds. Any community with a significant number of preteens will have this same repulsive effect on older teenagers and young adults, or even other preteens. See also: Fortnite, Skibidi Toilet, FNAF to some extent, Roblox, etc.
That’s it. There’s no grand anti-lgbt conspiracy. Furries are just weird. If you want, I have access to a discord server that’s like 60-70% queer and I can make a google form to prove this.