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minus-square[object Object]@lemmy.calinkfedilinkarrow-up57·4 個月前I don’t think we’ve ever seen the US lose a war so quickly and completely. And I call it losing because they’ve failed at every reasonable objective.
minus-squareAkasazh@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up10·4 個月前They never had a reasonable objective to start with
minus-square[object Object]@lemmy.calinkfedilinkarrow-up4·4 個月前That’s why I wrote every reasonable objective. They can stick around for 20 years blowing stuff up, but you can’t win unless you have some objective.
minus-square1dalm@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up9arrow-down2·4 個月前Americans honestly don’t even consider this our war. This is Trump’s war. America didn’t lose this war. Trump lost Trump’s war.
minus-square[object Object]@lemmy.calinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down1·4 個月前I do not blame them, this is Trump’s war of ego.
minus-squareBrainInABox@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·4 個月前American’s first priority always seems to be to deny all responsibility.
minus-square1dalm@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up6·4 個月前Honestly, of all the bad possible outcomes of this war. Losing this way is the least bad.
minus-square[object Object]@lemmy.calinkfedilinkarrow-up5·4 個月前Maybe. The fertilizer shortage driven famines and dust bowl haven’t started yet.
minus-square1dalm@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up2·4 個月前Exactly, if this really all ended now then we all practically got off easy. (Including the Iranian people compared to how bad it could get.)
minus-squareDarkSpectrum@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·4 個月前so far… until the boots touch down and the loss gets worse
I don’t think we’ve ever seen the US lose a war so quickly and completely.
And I call it losing because they’ve failed at every reasonable objective.
They never had a reasonable objective to start with
That’s why I wrote every reasonable objective.
They can stick around for 20 years blowing stuff up, but you can’t win unless you have some objective.
Americans honestly don’t even consider this our war.
This is Trump’s war. America didn’t lose this war. Trump lost Trump’s war.
I do not blame them, this is Trump’s war of ego.
American’s first priority always seems to be to deny all responsibility.
Honestly, of all the bad possible outcomes of this war. Losing this way is the least bad.
Maybe.
The fertilizer shortage driven famines and dust bowl haven’t started yet.
Exactly, if this really all ended now then we all practically got off easy. (Including the Iranian people compared to how bad it could get.)
so far… until the boots touch down and the loss gets worse