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The losses of Germany on the eastern front are widely believed to be the most significant factor in defeating Nazi Germany and the USSR won the battle of Berlin, the final battle before the German capitulation. Thus Europe widely believed (for a good reason) that the USSR was the main contributor in defeating Germany. With the cold war the perception of the USSR became a lot worse in western countries like France and with increasing anti-USSR sentiment the view flipped to viewing the USA as the deciding factor. The USSR (and the Russian Federation today, even if its government is very anti USSR) viewed itself as the most important force in defeating Germany, especially because the USSR had the biggest amount of deaths. It is worth noting that the USSR was at least commercially allied with Nazi Germany until June 22, 1941 and there was an agreement between the nations on which parts of Europe each could invade and which where reserved for the other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_in_World_War_II

  • Riverside@reddthat.comBanned from community
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    we sent them

    The US sent a total of about 7 thousand tanks to the USSR, but the T-34 Soviet tank saw about 80k units built in total, so while lend lease was very significant, the vast majority of war material of the Soviets was of Soviet origin.

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        The fact that the Soviets didn’t manufacture trucks is because they got them from the USA, not backwards. A truck is significantly cheaper to manufacture than a tank.

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          sure thing buddy, the sovs did it all themselves lol.

          https://www.jrbooksonline.com/fdr-scandal-page/lend.html

          there’s dozens and dozens and dozens of line-items on that list that number in the MANY MILLIONS

          now think for a moment: did it get there via UPS? FEDEX?

          no it went via murmansk through throngs of fuckin’ german subs.

          such a silly, stupid argument to articulate - they would have died without the US’s support. Period. Russia would not have survived. there’s no win there, leningrad falls and moscow burns.

          fuck man, the ally that sends you the 3,400 LATHES so you can build the fucking tanks deserves SOME recognition lol

          hey and another thing: if stalin hadn’t been a ribbentrop treaty signing idiot, he wouldn’t have put the soviets in such a bad position they needed that kind of hail mary rescue effort huh?

          pfft

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            I did recognize that lend-lease was very significant. However, Britain got 3 times as much aid from Lend-Lease and they weren’t the ones who won the war.

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                Lend-lease, it’s USA policy.

                Answer my question: if lend-lease won the war, if Britain received $30bn and the USSR received $11bn, why didn’t Britain win the war?

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                  you do realize it’s easier to get material to the UK than it is in russia?

                  maps not your thing huh sport?

                  and britain did win the war, all the allies won, the axis lost. pfft.

                  goddamn did any of your siblings pass 4th grade history? ask one of them.

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                    You’re not answering my question:

                    Britain got 3 times as much aid from Lend-Lease than the USSR. If Lend-Lease is the main factor behind the Soviets defeating the Nazis (as proven by Nazis suffering 80% of their dead soldiers in the Eastern Front), why didn’t Britain kill many more Nazis?