The most annoying thing ‘socialists’ have done is creating their own lexicon and different meanings of English words so they can be oh so superior to the ‘normal folks’ without actually changing anything. The point of language is communication, to be clear. If your terms are confusing people, that’s your problem, not people’s problem
You literally read a meme that says “capialists have miseducated you to conflated these terms” and your reply was “I am conflating these terms and I blame socialists.”
Yeah ,well op gatekeeping and being cagey about the difference in the two doesn’t educate anyone. I tried reading the Wikipedia pages and it didn’t really clear up the difference for me exactly.
Private property is capital like factories, land, things that produce on a large scale that is owned by a person or business. Public property is the same as private property but owned by the government that is for the public. Personal property is things like your toothbrush, your clothes, your toaster, etc.
So this part of the Wiki didn’t clear up anything for you, despite being basically exactly what Comrade_Spood said below?
Marxists argue that private property is a social relationship between the owner and persons deprived, i.e., not a relationship between person and thing. Private property may include artifacts, factories, mines, dams, infrastructure, natural vegetation, mountains, deserts, and seas—these generate capital for the owner without the owner necessarily having to perform any physical labor. Conversely, those who perform labor using somebody else’s private property are considered deprived of the value of their work in Marxist theory. Instead, they are given a salary that is disjointed from the value generated by the worker.
Personal property, or possessions, includes “items intended for personal use” (e.g., one’s toothbrush, clothes, and vehicles, and rarely, money). The owner has a distributive right to exclude others (i.e., the right to command a “fair share” of personal property).
In anarchist theory, private property typically refers to capital or the means of production, whereas personal property refers to consumer and non-capital goods and services.
I’ve had you tagged as ‘lying troll’ for so long now, and you never fail to live up to it Dick.
Seems your tag for me is projection. I used to call you out for your antagonism for a while, then I realized you’re mostly harmless, you just have a need to feel superior in all situations so I began mostly ignoring your dumb ass.
A Corporation is any organization that is legally recognized and can act as a single entity, so a co-op, commune, even an HOA that has common areas would probably be setup as a corporation even if the property relations are different than a private for-profit company.
The distinction can be seen in late 1800s Mexico where liberal reformers were trying to get rid of corporate ownership of land to promote individual ownership like in the US. What this meant was many villages who held property in common since before the aztecs were being forced to split up the common land and distribute it to each individual family, so that then the rich landlords could piece by piece buy up the land starting with the poorest families.
The most annoying thing ‘socialists’ have done is creating their own lexicon and different meanings of English words so they can be oh so superior to the ‘normal folks’ without actually changing anything. The point of language is communication, to be clear. If your terms are confusing people, that’s your problem, not people’s problem
You literally read a meme that says “capialists have miseducated you to conflated these terms” and your reply was “I am conflating these terms and I blame socialists.”
Maybe the problem is you, as these are understood terms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_property
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property (do not the “Not to be confused with Personal property.” at the top of this page)
The point of the post was that they aren’t commonly understood.
And the point of the post is capitalists are the ones that caused that…
Yeah ,well op gatekeeping and being cagey about the difference in the two doesn’t educate anyone. I tried reading the Wikipedia pages and it didn’t really clear up the difference for me exactly.
Private property is capital like factories, land, things that produce on a large scale that is owned by a person or business. Public property is the same as private property but owned by the government that is for the public. Personal property is things like your toothbrush, your clothes, your toaster, etc.
Gotcha, thanks for that.
So this part of the Wiki didn’t clear up anything for you, despite being basically exactly what Comrade_Spood said below?
I’ve had you tagged as ‘lying troll’ for so long now, and you never fail to live up to it Dick.
I noticed the last line and that’s all I needed. You have been tagged “antagonistic dipshit” for about 2 years and it’s the truth.
At least I actually give a fuck about something. All you do is troll and operate in bad faith.
Seems your tag for me is projection. I used to call you out for your antagonism for a while, then I realized you’re mostly harmless, you just have a need to feel superior in all situations so I began mostly ignoring your dumb ass.
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Very helpful.
These terms do not appear mutually exclusive.
“Abolish private property” sounds like it would include “abolish private personal property” such as the bike in the meme.
this is anything, though.
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If you had any idea what you were talking about, you’d probably be less annoyed. You’re on the Internet: try using it to learn.
Do you have better terms?
Personal/private property for things individuals own and corporate property for things companies own? That’s just a suggestion off the top of my head
Congratulations! You made the distiction even more complicated by introducing another, superfluous term! /s
But they are terms they understand, so it’s okay! Communication restored without any critical thought on why they didn’t understand the other words.
Would rental property owned by small landlords be considered “corporate property”?
“Business” would be a better term than “corporate” in this context.
Sure, it was just a suggestion off the top of my head as I said, your suggestion is definitely better :)
A Corporation is any organization that is legally recognized and can act as a single entity, so a co-op, commune, even an HOA that has common areas would probably be setup as a corporation even if the property relations are different than a private for-profit company.
The distinction can be seen in late 1800s Mexico where liberal reformers were trying to get rid of corporate ownership of land to promote individual ownership like in the US. What this meant was many villages who held property in common since before the aztecs were being forced to split up the common land and distribute it to each individual family, so that then the rich landlords could piece by piece buy up the land starting with the poorest families.
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