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The president’s Oval Office meeting with New York’s incoming leader is not open to the press.
Trump, 79, frequently invites reporters into the Oval Office for a front-seat view as he sits down with U.S. and world leaders, but, according to his schedule, the media was barred from his first meeting with Mamdani, the Democratic socialist 45 years his junior.
Their first face-to-face comes after Trump lobbed a series of nasty attacks on the political upstart who mounted an underdog campaign and went on to win the race to lead the largest city in the U.S.
Trump has blasted Mamdani as a “communist lunatic” and “not very smart.” He falsely accused him of being in the country illegally, threatened to arrest him, and warned that he would cut off money to New York if he won.
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He’s going to be the mayor of NYC. He has no choice but to meet with the President. Besides, he’s upholding a campaign promise to meet with anyone (see article).
After all the shit Trump said about home during the election, the shit the press secretary said about the “communist coming to the White House,” the absolute best thing Mamdani can do right now is nothing. Let these idiots fall over themselves backtracking and unsaying all the shit they’ve spewed. All he has to do is stand there with a smile and not say shit. Even if Trumps base never comes around on him, he was never going to win those people. He’s already won all he was ever going to win when Trump said positive things about him after the meeting. No need for him to say anything else. Just go back to NY, wake up tomorrow and get on with his life.
Why does a Mayor have no choice but to meet with the president? Governor maybe but mayor don’t care if its one of the biggest cities.
Because when you become the lead manager of a huge company’s major revenue stream, you meet the fucking boss. If you’re not going to work together with the larger company you are shutting yourself off from all the potential support of the larger institution.
Despite all the performative and not-so-performative bullshit the administration and trump spout daily, it’s still the business of leadership. You can’t not do your part just because the CEO is a dipshit. People depend on your decisions and management.
I really want to reiterate that what happens behind closed doors is a very different world than what we see reported on. Legal cases aside, it’s largely performative and the Mamdani/Trump meeting behind closed doors should be proof of that. Whatever Mandani said was not his normal mask of optimism and cheerful practicality, he was likely much more serious and delivered a tone that would seem shocking, while at the same time managing to butter Trump up enough that the entire tone changed after.
The public on both sides would over-analyze the entire thing, every word and phrase dissected the same way they KEEP going after Mamdani about words and rhetoric trying to trap him into saying something. Watch again. Watch where that sack of shit reporter tries to drive up contention and points out that Mamdani has called trump a fascist or something and if that’s still how he feels. Trump intervenes and saves Mandani from answering.
They made deals. And nobody on either side wants to see these two making deals. This isn’t a bad thing, it just reflects how our media has distorted our world and how all of our emotions have been made priority over material outcomes.
Ameancow said it better, but I wanted to add that new York could be hit with a hurricane next year. Or a terrorist attack like 9/11. Neither of those are likely, but if it happens, Mamdani wants help from the feds and if trump is threatening to kill him every week that becomes harder.
He has a larger constituency that many governors
Only 12 of the 50 states have a higher population than NYC alone.
Seems like Mandami got the Bubba treatment
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I call my cat Bubba. So that means I’ve got him on his back and my face blowing raspberries in his tummy. That’s the Bubba treatment
This past few weeks have been awkward for me
I think if you’re worst enemy doesn’t have blackmail pictures of you doing this you’re ok
I am once again begging people to not post headlines that start with “Trump, 79,” that doesn’t end with. Well. You know. The start of the party.
He’s called taco for a reason
A tired taco
I don’t like it, with press present harder for Trump to bull some bullshit. Behind closed doors anything can happen. They could claim he tried to attack trump why he had to be killed. For fucksakes they called him a terrorist. No way he should be meeting the president in private.
I’m not into consperacy but you’re right. On the other hand … Trump is stupid enough to have him killed any day of the week
Honestly, I think this is the best option. Nothing good would have come of their conversation being in public.
100%, the American public, for as much as everyone complains about the state of politics, are not much better as a driving force for policy and good outcomes.
Because everyone can’t keep their shit together and the most ill-informed voices now speak loudest, we’re going to see more and more actual politics moving behind closed doors, for better or worse.
I disagree. I think Mamdani would have made a fool out of Trump while trying not to. He still will, but now we won’t get to see it.
You want entertainment. He wants to take the job seriously. The mayor of New York wants to secure some form of business dealing going forward and do right by his constituency.
When his hands are tied behind public image, he can’t talk openly about a lot of things that would make the general public panic or not understand the meaning and context. We tend to forget or choose to forget that even the best politics is still public perception management.
What good would have come from that? Trump would just go overboard with whatever fascist retaliation he can in order to compensate for his embarrassment.
He keeps trying to pass himself off as a smart man, and there’s just no way to keep up that act if you’ve got an actually smart man talking to you.
Why not? Mamdani would absolutely smoke him
He doesn’t actually want to “smoke” anyone, he wants to secure his business, and that business is running one of the most important cities on Earth. Cities outlast people, outlast nations. Mandani is taking his job seriously enough that he doesn’t want to have to manage his meeting with the head of the federal government through public perception.
He is far more capable of negotiating politics and deal-making than Trump, but in order to have any business relationship at all, he has to make compromises and concessions. This is normal and fine, but a lot of people are going to take it wrong. We have to be understanding of this fact, because Mandani WILL at some point do or say things that will cause concern or be misunderstood in the larger scope of politics.
I just don’t think that’s the purpose of them talking. It’s not meant to be a public fight between 2 people, which is what it would turn into.
I imagine Trump will possibly be more receptive to Mamdani’s comments in that private than in public.
I imagine Trump will possibly be more receptive to Mamdani’s comments in that private than in public.
In what way? Because I hate to remind you but Trump is a literal fascist.
It’s now after the meeting, go watch the press conference and tell me trump isn’t absolutely smitten with Mamdani.
Well I guess I’ll be eating my words I have no idea what the hell is going on here.
In the same way that the 50 year mortgage guy got Trump on board despite all his aides and everyone else hating it. Hes not a hard man to trick.
Trump is a (self-proclaimed) billionaire; of course he’s not going to object to more exploitation of the working class. It’s a whole different conversation when it’s something that will hurt the owner class.
Hes also been harping on affordability and his approval rating has cratered. If he was gonna strong man this meeting I think there’s no shot he doesn’t want to do that in front of a camera. Im not telling you he’s going in good faith, but I know he likes the popularity Mamdani generated and will seek to find out how to do that himself. His ego has always been his weakness. If he was smart enough to just shut up, I bet almost none of his felonies would have stuck. Again Im not claiming this is a likely scenario but I do believe there’s more to it than a screaming match.
Edit: A friend just sent me this, and said he wished Schmer or Jefferies said anything this nice about Mamdani.
I guess I have no expectations for Trump to take anything positive away from this meeting.
But think in private he’s more likely to let Mamdani talk. In public it would just be a pissing contest for him.
Yep yep. Putting a reality show brained narcissist in front of cameras is only a good idea if you want footage of a crashout
Nah, trump couldn’t even open his mouth without pissing off his base. Any footage would call attention to his base that he let the “devil” in.
You’re right, there are secret meetings between powerful individuals that should remain hidden from public knowledge
Not every conversation needs to be public.
Not every conversation, but every conversation between powerful individuals.
And maybe that’s an impractical standard, but the spirit of it is more liberating than letting corruption fester in the darkness.
It is an impractical standard. While I understand where you’re coming from, I think sometimes you need to allow people an opportunity to talk without every word being judged.
If the meeting is public, then it will never be a true conversation. It will be 2 people giving prepared statements in the form of a conversation.
That’s an interesting perspective and I see where you are coming from. But practicality is out the window with the Trump admin. Transparency is practical
The press secretary said the meeting speaks to the fact that Trump is willing to meet with anyone to do what’s right on behalf of the American people, but she didn’t let it go without attempting a dig at the mayor-elect and Democratic Party.
“I will just add, it speaks volumes that tomorrow we have a communist coming to the White House because that’s who the Democrat Party elected mayor of the largest city in the country,” she said
It really does…
Just not in the way she thinks it does.
press secretary
Democrat Party
This is the fucking press secretary talking like a child. It’s like hearing an adult that still mispronounces words and says things like “supposably” instead of supposedly. They also think it’s some big own, but collectively, they all look like children and I want to see the press grow a spine and ask them why they do this. I mean, Donvict is calling them “piggy” and other insults anyway, they might as well ask about this as well.
Start shaming these motherfuckers, even over what is something others might call “trivial” - this is an orchestrated thing and has been for decades.
Imagine if every single Democratic politician, every single talking head, everywhere were to sync up on a misnomer for the Republican Party and start using that. It is not like it would not pass without comment, but for some reason, all these assholes, from the very top, always and constantly walk around saying “Democrat Party” with a shit-eating grin on their face. They know what they are doing, and NOT commenting on it is not doing anyone any favors.
In boxing, you don’t pay off the winner.
I was so looking forward to this. Donny really is a party pooper.
:stale_popcorn:
taco strikes again
Any Democrat or progressive worth a damn shouldn’t meet with him on camera. He’d rather have sound bytes than actual productive conversation.
I am very cynical. I don’t think there will be productive conversation happening in private either. I’d be more inclined to think threats and intimidation will be the brunt of it. The orange turd thinks he’s a mobster, but does have the backing of Russia and Israel.
He is a mobster. He owned a casino and was in real estate in New York. You don’t get any more mob than that.
I think you do, but fine, I accept the correction. In my mind I have capable and real (even movie) mobsters and with him, he thinks he’s that, but he’s a dollar store idiot mobster. Deffo not the brains of anything. I suppose that’s my reasoning. What was the saying?
“…he is a weak man’s idea of a strong man, a poor man’s idea of a rich man, and a stupid man’s idea of a smart man.”
I’ve known a couple of mob people. They’re just people with low moral ethics. They extort, blackmail and bribe for their own benefit. They usually have the smart people work for them. Trump is smart about putting a fake gold leaf over everything where people don’t look too closely at how he’s an actual mob guy. He did business with the russian mob ffs.
Taco taco, burritos, taco taco…
And now the orange cancer is singing Mamdani’s praises…
I hope he plays it smart behind closed doors. Stroke his ego in person, get him to agree to a public debate, then destroy him with facts using the most basic logic that even his voters can understand.
I like this headline
Idk. I’m always disappointed when a headline starts with: Donald Trump 79 and doesn’t end with died face down in a toilet.
