We resign, effective immediately, in protest of the Steering Committee’s ongoing pattern of attempting to interfere with moderation team operation, membership and specific moderation decisions. This is not a statement we enjoy making, and we apologize to the community for leaving right before an election that is bound to be contentious, and likely now more so. Unfortunately, the Constitution does not provide a meaningful recourse to SC overreach, and we cannot in good faith continue operating u...
Another day, another controversy in the nix community 🤣 It has always been this way and IMO a major reason it just has little velocity. The focus of community seems to be moral and ethical discussions about opensource and software as a whole, and honestly just basically everything outside of the software development lifecycle.
My guess as to why anything moves forward at all is because there are more contributors who don’t participate in the discussions than those that do. If they implemented a rule to keep it focused on nix and NixOS and nothing else, it might make it a nicer place to be.
It’s the same controversy as it was last year and the year before that: should the military-industrial complex be allowed to benefit from the Nix commons? It’s disappointing that you don’t think that the ethics of our profession is worth more than the output of our labor, particularly when it comes to exploitation, mass surveillance, war, and genocide.
Most of us write flakes outside of nixpkgs. I’m still listed as a maintainer and get pinged, but I don’t really care; anything I care about is already being actively developed out-of-tree. I doubt I’m the only maintainer taking that sort of quiet-quitting path.
Honestly the one Linux community that has been the nicest and most helpful for me has been the NixOS one…but I don’t use the official channels. I tried but like you said it seemed to be anything and everything EXCEPT actual Nix and NixOS.
outside of that your average NixOS user has been a pleasant experience to deal with.
I feel like at some point we have to drop most “official” spaces and instead have a bunch of separate sub-communities all moderated separately, zig-style. The only official communication channels would be PR and issue discussions on Nix and Nixpkgs repos, and they can be tightly moderated to stay on-topic.
Another day, another controversy in the nix community 🤣 It has always been this way and IMO a major reason it just has little velocity. The focus of community seems to be moral and ethical discussions about opensource and software as a whole, and honestly just basically everything outside of the software development lifecycle.
My guess as to why anything moves forward at all is because there are more contributors who don’t participate in the discussions than those that do. If they implemented a rule to keep it focused on nix and NixOS and nothing else, it might make it a nicer place to be.
Anti Commercial-AI license
It’s the same controversy as it was last year and the year before that: should the military-industrial complex be allowed to benefit from the Nix commons? It’s disappointing that you don’t think that the ethics of our profession is worth more than the output of our labor, particularly when it comes to exploitation, mass surveillance, war, and genocide.
Most of us write flakes outside of
nixpkgs. I’m still listed as a maintainer and get pinged, but I don’t really care; anything I care about is already being actively developed out-of-tree. I doubt I’m the only maintainer taking that sort of quiet-quitting path.This is why i love flakes. Can finally partition the beast of nixpkgs!
Could you share some links to the discussion? How would they even prevent those organisations from gaining access?
Honestly the one Linux community that has been the nicest and most helpful for me has been the NixOS one…but I don’t use the official channels. I tried but like you said it seemed to be anything and everything EXCEPT actual Nix and NixOS.
outside of that your average NixOS user has been a pleasant experience to deal with.
I feel like at some point we have to drop most “official” spaces and instead have a bunch of separate sub-communities all moderated separately, zig-style. The only official communication channels would be PR and issue discussions on Nix and Nixpkgs repos, and they can be tightly moderated to stay on-topic.