• SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml
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    Okay, I’m not a military/weapons expert or even an enthusiast but does Russia not have their own air defence which would include aircrafts like the F35? I’m just trying to understand the thought process here. Does Russian air defence just suck or is that an assumption they’re making? On every other front they’re doing well, but air is their weakness? It just seems kind of unlikely, but again, I don’t really know much about this stuff…

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      In fact, Russia has some of the best air defence around. The west focused on trying to achieve air superiority through stealth during the Cold War, while USSR instead focused on air defence systems. Today, it’s generally acknowledged that Russia has some of the best air defence systems in the world, and many of these don’t have any western equivalents https://missilethreat.csis.org/system_tax/russian-air-defense/

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          Liberal brain flatness. F-35 program cost is absolutely astronomical, but when liberal hear of it, the pavlov reaction kicks in, and the only conclusions he can get from that is “wow, if it cost 10 times more than Russian fighter, it is surely 10 times better” instead of what even he knows on a daily basis, that in his corrupted country there is nothing more corrupted than MIC.

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            So it’s the good ol’ “expensive means good” philosophy. Cool. Love how that’s just what people are running with nowadays, seems very stable.

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          It’s been carefully designed by extremely talented engineers to ensure parts are sourced from all major players in the MIC.

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      By all accounts, the RF’s air defense network is really fucking good, because they’ve had like 60 years to adapt to the NATO strategy of sending a million bombers to level a place and counting on the enemy being too poor the intercept them.

      Although even then, the Viet Minh sometimes managed to shoot down US planes just with massed rifle fire

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        Well it’s nice to know that its the exact opposite of what is being stated. You’d think if it was that easy they’d send planes over by now but clearly that wouldn’t bode well for NATO…

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          I personally think that’s why Ukraine hasn’t been given F35s, because the US knows it would be a pr disaster for it’s highly publicized, peer combat-untested 80 million dollar wunderwaffe to eat an S-3000 missile that ‘only’ cost a million to make.

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            also, if russian federation could salvage it and study more efficient ways to combat then, so us would be forced to retrofit lots of units

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      A big part of the lib’s understanding of the world is built upon the idea that they are the “clever hero” who will come up with a brilliant strategy that their enemy will never see coming. This is the baseline, regardless of how “brilliant” their idea actually is. So if their idea is “what if planes?” Then the bad guy will never suspect they would ever use a vehicle that has been used in wars for over a century, and will be completely blindsided by the brilliance of NATO bombers. Russian air defence is literally a non-factor in their armchair generalling.