Honestly, the first mover argument just looks like “turtles all the way down” to me. It explains nothing, because it doesn’t even care to explain this first mover. It’s just one more turtle.
Hence, if the correct answer is “we don’t know”, we don’t need the leap of faith to a first mover we know nothing about, we can just say “we don’t know” and they don’t either.
Same issue with the big bang, since we don’t know what created it. I personally believe that God is the universe. The universe manifested itself…somehow…and to me that makes it as close to God as we can get. I hope that the universe is conscious, and that our consciousnesses goes back into the big thing at the end. My evidence is experiential; an excellent acid trip 😉. I do wonder what atheists experience when they trip…
I do wonder what atheists experience when they trip…
I see patterns and have hallucinations when tripping. I’ve seen doritos logos cover my wall and noticed the patterns in mountains. No you are not talking to God, you are having essentially a waking dream and I don’t attribute dreams, which are your subconscious trying to interpret your daily actions, to supernatural beings. That would be stupid.
Honestly, the first mover argument just looks like “turtles all the way down” to me. It explains nothing, because it doesn’t even care to explain this first mover. It’s just one more turtle.
Hence, if the correct answer is “we don’t know”, we don’t need the leap of faith to a first mover we know nothing about, we can just say “we don’t know” and they don’t either.
Same issue with the big bang, since we don’t know what created it. I personally believe that God is the universe. The universe manifested itself…somehow…and to me that makes it as close to God as we can get. I hope that the universe is conscious, and that our consciousnesses goes back into the big thing at the end. My evidence is experiential; an excellent acid trip 😉. I do wonder what atheists experience when they trip…
I see patterns and have hallucinations when tripping. I’ve seen doritos logos cover my wall and noticed the patterns in mountains. No you are not talking to God, you are having essentially a waking dream and I don’t attribute dreams, which are your subconscious trying to interpret your daily actions, to supernatural beings. That would be stupid.