A German court has ruled that a Nazi concentration camp memorial has the right to refuse entry to those wearing the Palestinian keffiyeh scarf.

The higher administrative court in the eastern state of Thuringia on Wednesday rejected a request from a woman to be allowed entry to the Buchenwald concentration camp memorial while wearing a keffiyeh.

“It is unquestionable that this would endanger the sense of security of many Jews, especially at this site,” the court said.

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    freedom of expression no longer exists in Germany or is it just bigotry against the keffiyeh?

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      Nah. Just not the place and time for political protests.

      Edit: they stated it was explicitly political and not a random occurrence.

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        You know what’s insulting? All those people posing at the train tracks as if they’re having a ‘fun day out’ at the concentration camps.

        Granted most of that happens in Poland in Auschwitz, but my point is that nobody gets sued for that, but apparently wearing a scarf with a certain pattern?! Noooo, we can’t have that here in “free Germany”! That is not done!

        Zionism has drenched the society of Germany.

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            It’s even more interestingly how they keep forgetting the Roma people.

            Hitler himself put the Roma in the same class of “undesirables” as the Jews and they were targetted for extermination just like the Jews, but you don’t see Germany “unwaveringingly supporting” the former group or even mention them, at all.

            The Racist mindset of the Nazis never went away in Germany, they just stopped goose stepping and showing swastikas, and moved the ethnicity which had the most support in the top country of the winners of WWII - America - from the untermenschen colunn to the ubermenschen column while keeping treating people differently depending on their ethnicity.

            Had they actually stopped being Racists, they wouldn’t be “unwaveringly supporting” very openly because of the ethnicity they claim to represent, a nation mass murdering civilians like Israel is doing in Gaza.

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            Yeah, they conveniently forget the LGBT-people, the Muslims, the neuro-divergent people, the Roma and the Sinti that got killed in those camps.

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        Can I ban people from entering my store for wearing a cross, because it might upset some jewish customers and I feel that such an act is political, using this ruling?

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          A store is not a memorial and it ain’t just a scarf, but a political statement piece on the Jewish policies. You are allowed to ban people from your premises. They might fight back.

          This is very much not a good faith comparison.

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            Litmus test: what would you say if the shoe was on the other foot. A kyfiyeh is a cultural clothing item. So is a kippah. Would it be acceptable to ban kippahs from a memorial about the Nakba or the Gaza genocide?

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              They didn’t ban the clothing but somebody wearing it as a political protest against the primary victim of a memorial.

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                You’re conflating Jews and Israel, which is not ok. But the question remains the same.

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      Nonviolent protestors trying to explicitly stay within the confines of the constitution (Letzte Generation) are treated similarly to the RAF. Protesting your countries support for an ongoing Genocide will get you in a lot of trouble.

      As demonstrated in history bourgeois democracies (and especially the FRG) have the remarkable ability to flexibly turn into (even morw ofl a police state (capital/status quo defence mode if you will) in a very short amount of time or gradually with tightening restrictions.

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      Freedom of speech does not apply in concentration camps. If you visit, you’re obligated to be respectful. It’s no place for any kind of political protest, fun or other disrespectful behaviour.

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          It’s disrespectful by abusing the camp for a political aim or protest that’s completely unrelated. It spits on the shame of the inhumane industrial genocide that was perpetrated there.

          No political symbols of any kind should be brought to such a place. Anyone who does deserves to be beaten up right then and there.