• TheCaconym [any]@hexbear.net
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    If you chop the heads off people who are not even Israeli

    There is zero evidence that this did happen

    torture infants in their beds

    There is zero evidence that this did happen

    only because they want violent death to Jews

    That does not accurately describes Hamas’ motivations. The Palestinians had their land stolen from them, and are slowly being killed, over decades. They want that to stop.

    only because they want vengeance

    That does not accurately describe Israel’s motivations either; they don’t want vengeance, they want the land and the Palestinians gone

    Beyond the fact you seem to have a comic-book-level outlook of these events, you’re also putting on the same level a successful military operation that resulted in a comparatively small amount of civilian deaths as collateral victims (not to mention we still don’t have a clue of many of those Israeli civilians were killed by the IDF, but it’s definitely in the double digits at least) and an ongoing genocide, which is pretty disgusting

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        I can’t open a single link you provided, they all ask me to install a shitty app in order to view the content. Can’t even preview the channel itself (contrary to most telegram channels), so there isn’t much to discuss here; but I’m fairly confident I can guess some of the videos you linked based on your inane descriptions though, I’ve watched the same; and for those I’m guessing at, at least, they definitely don’t show what you say they do

        The objective was to kill people, not achieve any sort of military outcome.

        If you think the resistance forces’ objective on October 7th was to “kill people randomly”, you’re a child. It was a carefully prepared military operation that specifically targeted key military bases as well as several illegal settlements to obtain hostages - historically the only way for those same forces to manage the liberation of hundreds of Palestinians being tortured (among other things) in Israeli jails. Hostages that, I might add, were by all accounts very well treated while in custody in Gaza.

        And nobody’s denying there were civilians deaths, by the way; collateral damage will happen in a war. And there are also Palestinians civilians that went into occupied territory and probably showed less restraint than the actual trained resistance forces; when you keep people in a giant concentration camp and the inmates suddenly escape that sort of thing will happen. If you want to point the finger at someone for these deaths, point it towards the Zionist regime and its insane racist project, they’re the one responsible for all of this.

        And again, and finally, we still don’t know how many Israeli civilians the joint Palestinian forces actually killed, because it has become clear since then that the IDF killed a lot of them as well that day.

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        First of all, that comment needs CWs. Second of all, do you really expect people to believe some random Telegram channel called “Hamas Atrocities Documentation Center Report Oct 7”? sus fedposting