SimilarWeb has just released traffic estimates for June. According to these estimates, Reddit’s traffic has seen a 3.36% month-over-month decrease.
For comparison, here’s how traffic has changed for other popular social networking websites:
- Discord.com: +0.51%
- Twitter.com: -1.65%
- Instagram.com: -1.35%
- Facebook.com: -3.18%
- TikTok.com: +0.77%
- Pinterest.com: -2.27%
- Youtube.com: -2.02%
Source: https://www.similarweb.com/website/reddit.com/#overview
On the one hand, this doesn’t seem like a lot. But on the other, this is just for June. A lot of people left or drastically cut down their usage at the very end of June, and we’re not seeing this reflected in the data yet.
Even so, no company wants to say they’ve lost 3% of their customers. With 1.7 billion total, that’s still 51 million people. It’s a notable loss, especially for a company trying to become profitable and have an IPO.
I suspect half that drop is from me alone, lol.
Reddit lost a LOT of their power users. Even if the general traffic isn’t that badly dented, it means a lot of the best content and conversations will not go back. Reddit will spiral down to a 9gag clone.
I lurk the frontpage occasionally and I’ve already noticed the Reddit atmosphere has gotten … weird.
Little-known, content-churning subreddits are bubbling to the top because of all the other blackouts and desertions. Fringe viewpoints and wacko opinions that would normally get downvoted to the bottom of a thread are now out in the open because there’s no voice of reason to hold them back.
And the kind of people that are still on there, acting as if everything is fine (or, God forbid, better(???) than it was before the revolts) … it’s a very strange place now.
The meltdowns are something else.
On one smaller sub that participated in the blackout people were seriously accusing mods of rigging the votes to stay closed for longer. Of course nothing actually indicated that, and neither did they present any evidence, they just couldn’t stand not getting their content.
Same! I went to check it out earlier and the frontpage had a couple of subreddits I recognized but am not interested in, and the rest were all subreddits I had never heard of before. I also thought the scores seemed weirdly low, but not 100% sure about that since I dont usually pay super close attention. At least the weird vibe was pretty helpful in getting me to hop off, versus getting sucked in to browsing around more.
There was an r/Apple thread were people were going off about simplicity and just how hard it is to get into and use Lemmy… I am so glad I left lol
I didn’t make an account for awhile because so many people on Reddit were saying that. Once I finally did, I laughed how easy it was.
Reddit is pretty much at the point where you can open any thread on the front page and the comments will be indistinguishable from a Facebook comment section.
9gag… That’s a word I haven’t seen in a long time.
Reddit will stay, heck Digg if still around. It won’t be the same though.
Reddit will spiral down to a 9gag clone.
Back in the day, I discovered Reddit because people in the comments on 9gag would say a certain post was stolen from reddit.
I was a sucker for rage comics, so r/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu (aka f7u12) was my gateway drug.
I got onto Reddit from a rage comic app. 11 years ago.
I’d start a f7u12 community here, but I haven’t seen a classic rage comic that was actually worth a wet slap in years
On the other hand, most upvoted posts and comments on redit are far away from best. I expect most of those people will not even notice, they just scroll over reposts and bot.
Even the porn subs are starting to be overrun by onlyfans spammers
I thought they always were.
I mean, hey, free titties but always there.
If only people would actually stop using Reddit instead of doing these useless “protests” like they do in /r/videos. They’re still using the site, that’s what Reddit wants…
I’ve been waiting for my third party app to break. Boost finally stopped working an hour ago so I signed up here.
Signed up three days ago but was still using Boost until it stopped working just now. Am now figuring out how Lemmy works.
Just FYI, the developer of Boost is making a version for Lemmy. I’ll definitely be downloading it once it’s available.
Welcome!
The Lemmy boost version is already in development and you can sign up for it already on the app store!
Hopefully we’ll get boost for lemmy soon
Do you think Boost for lemmy will give lemmy a boost?
Welcome aboard! There’s now over 400,000 of us! (Source).
Boost is still working for me, but I haven’t logged in/engaged since the blackout. If it does go any day now, I’m okay with that.
Same, ‘cept my 3PA died a few hours before it should’ve. Reddit admins are clowns.
It’s still working for me?
The protests aren’t all useless, necessarily.
Subs that go NSFW are depriving Reddit of advertising revenue, and sites that change their purpose are likely to drive away some users who don’t want to shitpost, who might then go looking for alternatives.
except they are useless when reddit will just remove anybody that doesn’t play ball
I doubt it’s seriously hurting Reddit, if at all. People would really hurt Reddit if they just stopped using it entirely. No posting, no commenting and no lurking.
They’ve been astroturfing with bots to pump those numbers
There are soooo many GPT comments and threads on Reddit, at least when I left on the first. I imagine it’s going to get worse and worse now.
It’s trivial to setup a LLM designed to argue or astroturf a point now. That’s the problem.
I have been noticing a few here and there on Lemmy too. Unsure how to report it as I kept getting errors.
Reddit started with nothing but sock puppet accounts created by the devs, so I could definitely see them doing the same thing to show “activity”.
Think about all those running power delete suite or similar.
Looking at the pages for lemmy.ml, beehaw.org, lemmy.world, kbin.social, as well as lemm.ee paints an interesting, if expected, picture.
For one thing, lemmy.ml is categorized as “Games > Games - Other (In United States)” which made me scratch my head to the point of hurting my scalp. The rest are uncategorized (which is better than being miscategorized, imo).
Now, for the stats:
Instance Total Visits for June 2023 % Change from May 2023 Bounce Rate Pages per Visit Average Visit Duration #1 Incoming Traffic Source (from social media) reddit.com¹ 1.7B -3.36% 37.98% 6.21 8:24 Youtube (52.48%) lemmy.world 3.5M n/a² 38.12% 6.62 8:44 Reddit (97.29%) kbin.social 2.9M +5000% 26.24% 11.2 9:18 Reddit (93.92%) lemmy.ml 1.5M +1716% 51.79% 5.55 3:54 Reddit (98.86%) feddit.de 791.7K +5000% 55.88% 2.76 3:57 Reddit (98.31%) beehaw.org 790.1K +5000% 35.48% 4.50 5:44 Reddit (96.24%) lemmy.ca 186.4K +1615% 69.14% 2.45 1:05 Reddit (100%) lemm.ee 167.5K +5000% 29.58% 6.73 5:18 Reddit (86.81%) - ¹ –
reddit.comis included as a point of comparison - ² –
lemmy.worlddidn’t exist yet in May 2023
We can see that the larger instances are already performing well in comparison to reddit when it comes to “interaction” statistics. It’s a surprise, however that
kbin.socialtrounces everyone else it was compared to–even comparing favorably withlemmy.worldin visit numbers. In comparison,lemmy.mlperformed quite badly especially in bounce rate and average visit duration. Someone who’s better equipped than me in analyzing these figures can perhaps do a better anaylsis, but from what I can see, we’re not doing that bad here.I’ve also added
lemm.eeinto the mix just for good measure (and perhaps as a proxy for smaller-ish instances), and it’s doing quite good as well.
EDITS:
Something to keep in mind to contextualize the interaction statistics: the density of contributors to lurkers in these numbers will be drastically higher here due to the greater barrier to entry as well as the average user type of the migration. It should be expected that the average user in a niche/early-adopter community will be more active.
Not me! I intend to be just as much a lurker as I was on Reddit!
Thanks! What do you make of the unusually high bounce rate (and low average visit duration) for
lemmy.mlthough? That has been a head-scratcher for me. Did it not gain people from the migration as well (which makes for better interaction)?Could it also be due to load/server issues? When I have trouble with page loads on .world I have a tendency to bounce and have a low average visit time.
I’m actually quite the opposite, I wait until a page loads. Between the two of us, it evens out, lol!
But yeah, I have a pet theory as to why
lemmy.mlhas a high bounce rate and low average visit duration: people migrating from Reddit dismisslemmy.mlfor whatever reason and check out other instances instead. That’s probably also why it didn’t gain as many users as other instances (comparatively speaking).I think lemmy.ml restricted registration and had a PSA telling people to join other instances. They didn’t gain that many users because they didn’t want to, probably because their infra couldn’t handle it (hence also the bouncing).
This, as well as their performance seems to paint a picture that explains the figures in the table. Thanks!
Could it be due to the fact they restricted registration? Not sure if it happened in June or July though.
It was in June, during the protest-blackouts.
What do you make of the unusually high bounce rate (and low average visit duration) for lemmy.ml though? That has been a head-scratcher for me.
It shouldn’t be a head scratcher. lemmy.ml was running like ass for much of it, with some periods of being completely down. Poor performance will drive up your bounce rate massively.
Ah, I see. I wasn’t aware that it was that bad over in
lemmy.ml, thanks!
Okay, but 52% of traffic on reddit is coming from Youtube??? Those channels that just compile reddit posts must really be helping Reddit. Lets make some Lemmy reading channels
As far as I understood that stat, it’s traffic coming from “social media sites” that’s counted there. What their definition of a “social media site”, I’ve got no idea–especially not since they include Youtube in that designation.
Lemmy.ca is +1615%
Added
lemmy.cainto the table as well, because, damn, what a ride! I suppose given from the explanation I was given regardinglemmy.ml’s figures, it wasn’t able to cope well with the flood of incoming users, I suppose?I think non English speaking instances like feddit.de are also not to be underestimated.
Damn. You’re right! I was surprised that it surpassed Beehaw.org in page views.
We’ve actually handled it very well as while it’s a major instance we are on the smaller side we also moved to a dedicated server at a good point right before it reached the limits of the VPS it was on.
Thanks for the clarification. I was just guessing based on similar bounce rates and average visit durations (
lemmy.caandlemmy.ml).
So from what I can tell the visits to the main lemmy instances are only ~.5% compared to total visits to reddit (1.7 billion vs 9 million). Smaller instances might bump that up to .7% or so. Reddit’s 3% drop in visits might be mostly due to people using the site less, while transfers to lemmy account for only a fraction of that. Still cool, though, hopefully we can keep the momentum going over the next couple months.
I really wish someone can compile the figures for all Lemmy instances (and Kbin) so that we can make such a comparison. But yeah, other alternatives also popped up such as Tildes, Squabble, Raddle. I suppose that can also make up for part of the missing 3%. Of course, there’s also a sizeable number that have simply stopped using Reddit (be it in protest or other reasons–such as seasonal variability, as in people are actually touching grass!).
I actually forgot to include Tildes, Squabble and Raddle into the table, but then again, I was only trying to compare what we gained here against what Reddit has lost. I hope that this momentum (loss for Reddit, gain for the Threadiverse) keeps going. But more importantly, that we keep the engagement here at a high level in both quantity and quality.
Where’s this data coming from?
Same website as used in the OP, SimilarWeb.
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I see a lot of people saying, “I can’t believe it was only a 3% drop,” and I’d like to offer some context as to why there’s not enough data here to really tell a story, yet. It could go a few different ways.
The Reddit protests in June were a big deal, not just on Reddit or Lemmy, but to the media at-large. Traffic surely saw a huge influx of people wanting to look at the dumpster fire. I know that I myself used Reddit a lot leading up to the blackouts, since it was, in a sense, the last hurrah of Reddit as we knew it. The Spez AMA would have driven traffic. The NSFW sub protests would have driven traffic. All those news articles linked to Reddit directly, and they would have also driven traffic.
Even with all that, there’s still a decrease in traffic. As others have said, July will be a better metric for the actual damage done, since the media has largely moved on and aren’t driving as many visits, and 3PAs are toast.
These numbers would have been more representative if we could have had more than a quarter to look at. What was the QoQ trajectory before this? For all we know, this could have indicated business as usual, or it could have indicated something much bigger, depending on what the traffic metrics over the past 12-24 months could show us.
I also would have liked to see the history for unique sessions and unique visitors. If there was a huge influx of unique visitors compared to the past few months, but traffic was still decreased overall, then that would indicate it came from news clicks or bots.
Basically what I’m saying is that the data doesn’t paint any kind of real picture right at this moment. That doesn’t mean there was no impact though. Time will tell.
This is for June. Third party apps were still working, and personally I didn’t change my Reddit browsing habit much during June. Now that third party apps are officially dead, I’ve been on Reddit a lot less, and been spending more time on Lemmy. Curious to see what the numbers look like for July.
Lemmy needs !RemindMe
A large number of people joined Lemmy before July. The user based for Lemmy jumped by 1600% if I remember right before July 1st
A 1600% increase in Lemmy could still be the result of a 3% drop in Reddit. There’s a massive difference in scale between the two sites.
As per the above comment, a single stat rarely paints a complete picture.
Similar Web has no idea of traffic over third party apps to start with. So it wouldn’t even notice a difference at July 1st.
I just realized that today is the first day in YEARS that I didn’t access Reddit. Sad, but it is what it is, and entirely their fault.
It was my primary social media site for over 10 years, and only one in probably the past five after ditching Facebook.
All I ever used to access it was baconreader. When the first talk of killing off the API started with the rate hike, I had a sinking feeling this was the end.
Rode it out till the last day, and reflexively kept opening baconreader just to realise again it was offline.
Decided to give Lemmy a try, and while it took a couple days to get it sorted, I have to say, for my daily browsing fix, it’s more than enough.
Yes, reddit is a giant database, and when google searches take me there I’ll view the info, but for everyday use, lurking, posting, and commenting, never again.
Not sure of its bias, user saturation, bot, shills, demographic, or what, but while smaller, the quality and content of the comments here just seems better. It reminds me of the early days on fark or even back on IRC.
It really does piss me off that greed over an IPO ruined something that had been a part of my life for so long.
I am enough of a grumpy old bastard that unless they fix the API and baconreader starts up again, I’m done. The internet is a big weird place, and I’m happy to go see other parts of it.
I just had my first experience today when I googled a question that took me to Reddit for the answer…which was deleted.
That happened to me too the other day, I stared at it for a bit and thought it must have been part of the mass deletion ppl did. It is one thing to read about it, it is an other to see it for yourself. But I fond my answer on a wiki page so it didn’t matter much. It was amusing tho.
If this happens again, and youre really insistant on reading that answer, people are saying the wayback machine should have that info for you. It’s sorta a win-win because you still get your answer and reddit doesnt get the revenue from your usage.
Then it’s worked, at least to some extent.
I agree with pretty much every single word you wrote and have gone through the same thought process, with the only exception being that I used RiF instead of Baconreader.
I never realized how significant killing third-party apps would be for me personally, but since Apollo stopped working my desire to use Reddit on my phone has dropped to zero. I’ve completely replaced it with Discord and “traditional” social media in my downtime.
If they kill old.reddit on desktop too, that will be the final nail in the coffin for me.
…and at least a little Lemmy.
I like a little look at Lemmy.
It took Apollo’s death for me to realize that I used Reddit primarily because of Apollo itself. Without it, I realized I just didn’t like Reddit all that much.
I’m the same.
Admittedly the time away from Reddit has been a boon for me as I’ve been consistently better at using spare time here and there time to actual hobbies and responsibilities.
I haven’t actively browsed Reddit since the blackout. Almost a month, it’s flown by and I’m still fine
(Actively meaning I’ve accidentally clicked a link or two that pointed to it, but I never opened the app myself)
I was a heavy user before, for sure. I used to scroll Reddit for hours a day. I uninstalled my app when the blackouts started. If I do a google search where the answer is on reddit, i’ll still look at that answer. But for the most part, I am gone. Seems like a lot of people are all bark no bite though.
I reddit a LOT at work so I was probably spending roughly 3-4 hours a day with reddit at least in the background and I haven’t actually intentionally visited the site for two weeks.
Honestly, my mental health is improving. Reddit is a shitty outrage machine that’s astroturfed by corporations and fascists.
Did the same thing and deleted my account. My muscle memory can’t find the app and my battery last a full day.
I’ve just put Connect for Lemmy in the same place where the Boost for Reddit icon was on my home screen and the problem is solved.
I open all of my apps by usings iOS search feature, i’ll occasionally still type “apollo” and be like, “oh yeah, i dont have this anymore”. It isn’t as often now though, compared to the first few weeks.
If I do a google search where the answer is on reddit
This is what I’m missing the most, because I’ve learned to automatically add “reddit” to most of my searches, since I usually could find a better discussion there.
But now it’s useless - if you need a product recommendation, it’s filled with bots obviously schilling for whoever paid, fake reviews, and it’s generally useless. And technical questions mostly lead to subreddits that were closed, and I have no idea what state are they in now - but I still don’t want to give them traffic.
But what to do now? The internet is basically unusable by now. Everyone and now even AIs are writing blog posts or videos about things they barely understand, you have literaly thousands of AI generated pages about programming questions, some of them are outright wrong, and if you need something more complex than a single command - for example how to write a good video game AI architecture (especially this search term is FUCKED. I need to rewrite steerring, navigation and behaviors for a video game, but good luck searching for “video game AI” in the last few months…), most of the articles or tutorials are pretty shitty.
Every search term is filled with mediocre blog posts, usually copy-pasted between eachother. I literally don’t know how to use the internet for deeply researching a topic anymore - everything is just barely scratching the surface in the most popularized way possible.
I guess I just have to start searching on scholar.google.com…
Don’t know if this is of any help but here is a good video. It’s about a video game ai concept I’ve not heard of before: https://youtu.be/9gf2MT-IOsg
Idiocracy seems to be getting closer and closer to being a reality
This gets made back by September.
95% of people who use reddit use the official app or website, and don’t notice a single thing except the occasional stray John Oliver meme.
Not enough hobby communities left.
I thought about this comment, and realized that somehow, I just don’t care so much anymore. Instead of worrying about what I left behind, I’m looking forward to what’s ahead of us.
I think it’s because even before the whole 3d-party-app drama, there already was this undefined feeling that Reddit’s best days are behind it. Maybe it’s the effect of ad money and monetization, or it’s the inevitable trend towards low quality content that comes with mass adoption, probably it’s both.
Whatever the cause, in most subreddits, the old Facebook-style rot had already set in. Once-cool subs now being an endless barrage of tired memes, bots farming karma, and people being assholes. The things I joined for years ago, the engaging discussion, random encounters with amazing experts, the cutting-edge internet anarchy, it’s all already long gone.
When I opened the app (Baconreader in my case), I only did it out of habit, to then spendy time scrolling through an endless list of things that made me slightly go “heh”.
So, maybe most people will stay on Reddit for now, and probably I will have to leave behind certain communities instead of finding direct replacements. But I see that as a good thing. As long as even just 2% of Reddit’s users make it here, I’m excited it will grow into something much better than what I left behind.
Well said. We’re onto something good here. The discussions are great, & I think part of the reason is because comments aren’t getting upvoted like crazy or downvoted into oblivion, nobody is karma whoring with stupid puns or references. Anyone here is just hanging out and shooting the breeze, it’s goddamn refreshing. It won’t keep that underground feel forever, but I’m glad to be here right now.
The thing that really bothers me is that some of the communities I was active in through mobile are pretty much impossible to find outside of reddit.
They’re way small on it, too, so who knows if they’ll even migrate or just fade away.
This here is really my only concern. I followed a good number of subs that existed for actual discussion, not just meme dumps, and unless they’re migrated to Lemmy, I will be missing them.
Sure, I can access Reddit just for those topics, but so far I’m staying away from that site completely in my own self-protest.
( I know, I know, I’m a literal molecule in a drop in a bucket, but damnit, I’m doing my part! :) )Be the change you want to see in the world. If those communities haven’t come over, start them. Seed them.
I think that’s going to be my plan, if I can talk to some of the current mods and ask them to do so here as well. I’ll create the new communities, but have no interest or time for actually moderating them.
I’ve tried browsing with the app but the content I’m being fed seems to have different priorities to rif. The niche stuff that I really want to read appears to be being buried.
It’s made it so much easier to just not give them any content myself as I decided to stop posting there.
I’m really looking forward to seeing where lemmy goes as it’s attracting the kind of people I enjoy associating with. Reddit is headed in the opposite direction IMO.
I feel like I was noticing this on the main site as well. I’d be surprised if they hadn’t been changing the algorithms to spoon feed us specific content, but there’s also a very high likelihood that the overall feel of the content has changed after swaths of people migrated out, and then I’m sure I have a bias against Reddit now as well :P
That is how I feel as well. I haven’t completely given up on reddit just yet, but my usage is going down, and I open reddit more by accident than anything. Lemmy is my new default and I’m not complaining.
Most people are lurkers though, I’d wager a greater proportion of active posters left.
Most lurkers view the Twitter/TikTok reposts Reddit is full of, which have not slowed down, or the ““advice”” subreddits, which have not slowed down either.
The content that people like us like, some of it has moved away, but the people who are willing to chase that content are a very small minority.
Then does it really matter, if the only ones left are those looking for and churning out low-quality content? Even if they’re the majority, who cares?
I think you are being very pessimistic about this. Reddit’s collapse will not be a linear process. If it happens mind you.
But if it happens:
- First the most active 3% leaves. But the 3% creates a huge hole in the overall activity of the site. So another 3% leaves. And the site will at an ever increasing speed reach the point of no return. Reddits main user base is the drooling masses who want to read gossip instead of working.
But if there is no free entertainment, the masses just move on. Basically all a platform is, is it’s core audience.
I’ve starting going to Reddit less and less, but if I do, my frontpage has gone to shit. I can’t even recognize it, the few instances I visited regularly are read-only and since I’ve unsubscribed the most popular default ones, there’s almost nothing left for me.
Which is good, since thanks to that I’m slowly learning to just automatically starting Lemmy instead of Reddit as my go-to social network.
DoorDash everywhere. That’s when I left.
Why the fuck is that sub so active!? Who gives that much of a shit about doordash?? I’ve never seen a Justeat/Deliveroo app. It’s so strange.
Right?? One of the more baffling outcomes of the protest. I think mindless scrollers are desperate for dopamine and will upvote literally any garbage at this point.
My only takeaway from that sub is to continue to never ever use food delivery apps, you’re making your delivery people miserable by using them.
My frontpage was mildly frustrating before ads. I won’t browse reddit with ads and their terrible app
Honestly, that’s fine. Good for Reddit.
It’s just not a place for me anymore.
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Havent been there since the day of the blackout, not missing anything.
The reddit we fell in love with is gone. Even if the website is still there.
The more I’ve heard from friends still using it the less desire I have to go back. At first I was gonna boycott until the end of the month but it sounds like it’s not even that good now that a lot of active posters left. Haven’t felt much urge to go back, although I do need to find new communities for some of the more niche subs I was on. My houseplant and travel hacks discussion has been very lacking since I left Reddit…
Most of that traffic is probably lurkers and content consumers. Reddit will continue chugging along for a bit, but the loss of power users and mods is about guaranteed to wither the platform over time.
There are enough reposts to keep them busy for a while I think. I swear the same post would get reposted a few weeks after the original and get just as many or more upvotes than the first time. And the top comments were usually the same or similar.
That’s the bots at work though. Create a circle-jerk of upvotes on certain topics with nothing inventive or new in between. I have yet to see a bot(like response) here. Most comments are well thought out. And the posts are pretty relevant and no ads!!!
I swear 50% of askreddit questions were bots recycling questions. You could pump it up to 100% and I doubt most lurkers would notice the difference.
Same deal with subs about cute things or videos of crazy stuff. Reddit has enough of a backlog that casual consumers probably wouldn’t even notice a slow rotation of it. I’ve seen many times somebody point out reposts and get slammed with “Well it’s new to me!” comments.
The only thing that might noticably suffer are meme subs since memes have to follow current topics, but honestly how hard can it be to make a bot that creates current event memes based on templates? The templates themselves are already run into the ground.
That seems small given the number of Redditors here
One point to keep in mind is that drama also brings engagement IN, not just out. When the drama subsides, the temporary boost in activity from new users or lurkers will go down too.
That being said, the percent decrease was always gonna be in the single digits. The average redditor was never gonna stick with a prolonged protest of a service that remains free to use.
I still visit reddit maybe once a day for 10 minutes for niche subs or communities that aren’t built up here. If those communities develop here, I will fully cut out reddit.
Edit: also when noting that I use Lemmy amount 90% of the time now, but my overall usage of Lemmy/reddit has gone down. Probably for the better, because I started reading again.
Are you me? I’ve been off Reddit like a week now and I’ve already read two books with the extra time I don’t spend doom scrolling.
In fact, I am you. What are we reading? I just finished 7 1/2 deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle and Project Hail Mary.
Good stuff. We just read Cinema Speculation and the first volume of Elric of Melniboné.
niche subs or communities that aren’t built up here
Oh how I wish someone would make a shittymobilegameads community.
…or for me to get the willpower and motivation to do it myself.
If it wasn’t for my photography, I’d delete instagram. Holy shit is it pay-to-play a cesspool. And I’m being targeted for ads for all kinds of ponzi schemes and crypto and FOREX scams. Probably from watching Coffeezilla videos.
We’ll see how Lemmy picks up. I’m really liking it, thus far. Right now we’re looking at Reddit like a former, toxic partner that we want to spite. Lately I was just going on the World News, Ukraine war mega thread.
If it wasn’t for my photography, I’d delete instagram
It’s funny, but my photography is precisely the reason I’m not on Instagram. Since day 1 I’ve never thought it is a good place for actual artistic photography; indeed it kinda directly undermined artistic photography back in the day with the “all photos must be square” rule. I’ve always considered Instagram more of a place to share snapshots. Flickr isn’t what it once was, but it’s always been more of a true photography-focused social media site.
Just like Etsy. Its a horrible place to try and build a business and be creative and make money, and is being overrun by dropshipped tat, but its where everyone goes to get nice things, so its where people have to sell
I’m a hobbyist and I went there to get something nice and save myself some time making it. I expected high quality reasonable cost and I found average/low quality high cost. Disappointed.
I’m in the same boat. Been trying a few different Instagram alternatives for a few years but the user bases are all too small. Pixelfed and Vero seem decent but too much of a ghost town to feel it’s worth continuing to post.
I haven’t tried Pixelfed yet. I just got into the Fediverse and several instances on Lemmy. So I’ll eventually try Pixelfed. But 500px and Flickr seemed kind of dead to me. Vero and Vsco, I’ve heard mixed things, but also ghost-towns.
It’s to the point in IG that not even close friends nor family, see what I post. Adam Mosseri and Mark can fuck right off.
