I’m new to smart home / automation and was looking for advice on starting from scratch at a new home. I see a lot of folks here mention Home Assistant and the debate on whether to use wifi/cloud connected devices vs a local network.

Given I’m not a computer expert, looking for suggestions on how to get started on making my home smart with a centralized control type panel and recommendations on the items you like most. For context, I’m hoping to have smart locks, smart bulbs/lightswitches that can be controlled by phone and voice, smart garage opener, smart plugs, tvs if possible (and open to other suggestions)

Thanks for your time and assistance!

  • tiberiusgv@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    There really isn’t a debate. You don’t want cloud devices. What do you mean by local network? That would include your wifi. Maybe you’re talking about zigbee/wave. That would be the alternative to wifi. If I went wifi but if I did it over again i would probably look more into zigbee.

    Seriously don’t make your home cloud dependant. Your actions will be slow and you’re screwed if your internet goes down.

    r/homeassistant is the way to go

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    11 months ago

    5 years ago, Home Assistant really wasn’t “in reach” for most other than application developers / IT folks. It was beyond what your average person could have reasonably grasped.

    But one of the more recent versions in the past few years, they really did work a lot on UI and usability, web interfaces for most things, etc. So it is very much a great mainstream solution. I have it in our main home and our vacation home, and I never worry about either no matter where I may be.

    Don’t worry too much about HA geeks on internet forums in terms of cloud-connected vs. not-cloud-connected devices. Generally, things that don’t have a dependency on the cloud will be a bit faster/more responsive, and you won’t have the business risk of the company behind it killing the product / going out of business and shutting off their servers (i.e.: my Dropcam from 10 years ago is facing that fate soon).

    So look for devices without a cloud dependency, but IMO don’t bend over backwards. You want a decent indoor/outdoor camera system with some AI features? Might be that Nest or Ring would work just fine for you. If you read people here too long they’ll tell you that you have to run your own power-over-ethernet cameras to a Frigate NVR recorder that you run in a Docker container on your Proxmox server … yadda yadda yadda … you get the point.

    Sometimes the best devices for you are just going to be cloud-connected and there isn’t much you can do. You need to be conscious of the business risk, though - read about the history of the Wink Hub platform for an example of how things can go poorly. Or Philips Hue terminating all cloud support for the 1st gen hub for their light bulbs.

    The other thing that is great about Home Assistant, is that because it’s had such a hardcore software developer following - there are integrations for practically any home automation device out there you can think of. Heck, even our SleepNumber bed … as soon as we got it on the network, it found it and suggested a pre-built integration. Now our house knows when the spouse and I both hop into bed, and it automatically shuts off all the lights, locks all the doors, etc.

    ME: Used HomeSeer 20 years ago, with X.25 switches. Gave up on HA for many years, came back when SmartThings launched (knew one of the founders) and it was a great platform until Samsung bought it and then it declined over many many years. Now on Home Assistant and extremely happy with it, one of the most powerful platforms out there IMO and always evolving. Fortunately, all of my SmartThings switches and sensors worked so I didn’t lose money on those.

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        11 months ago

        most computers will run on it fine. raspbery pi were to go to a few years back, inexpensive, low power usage and decenttly powerful; however, the shortages during covid meant that they were very expensive, and on those price ranges, mini computers blew them out of the water in terms of performance. Look for a pc with n100 (which is still way more power than you need) and you should be good.

        tldr: any computer in the last 10 years will run it fine

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          11 months ago

          Thank you - if I were to purchase a mini desktop PC (like the KAMRUI AK1 Plus Mini), what else would I need other than a CPU monitor? I’ve read about USB live images?