This post is “FYI only” for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.
I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the “adult human female” dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and “civil disagreement” on the validity of trans folk.
I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to “sort it out through discussion and voting”. However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little “sorting out” has occurred. The posts remain in place.
At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.
I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.
Obviously I’m not on blahaj, but I think the decision is pretty on point for the goals of blahaj.
It also makes me disappointed in feddit.uk. “Leave it to discussion/votes” is bullshit and just support for the behavior.
Edit: The admin responded elsewhere with “we want to make sure we comply with the law”.
My comment remains unchanged. Allowing this is support. Fuck your bullshit law. You’re explicitly supporting this bullshit by your inaction.
just curious; did something happen recently because posts from the instance suddenly started appearing on my tl again? didn’t see any other post so i didn’t know if it was a bug or something :)
Yeah, they did a post up clarifying their stance
https://feddit.uk/post/29902751 / https://lemmyverse.link/feddit.uk/post/29902751
yay! ok just making sure :)
Truth be told, I didn’t want to kick off more drama by making a big announcement about it. I respect the stance they’ve taken and the work they’ve put in to it! So we’ve reconnected :)
that makes sense! i just did a double take cause i thought my boost app might have logged out so i had to check <3
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Good riddance, fuck TERF island. If communities don’t like this change they can move to an instance that isn’t filled with and supported by transphobes.
This is a good move. I’ve reported a lot of tankie-like remarks on feddit that never get their comments removed and it’s concerning. Better to cut off any suspected tankie incubator than suffer the consequences
I’d rather my comm ban people that complain about ‘tankies’. It’s a useless term which can mean 100 things to different people, only serving really to divide the left.
They just mean anyone who doesn’t blindly trust western propaganda.
No, they mean people who blindly slurp up Chinese propaganda while denying the issues china has.
There’s a very good chance some of the issues you’re talking about are made up western propaganda. We’ve been fed so much bullshit to promote American nationalism and xenophobia.
I’m talking about denying that China is an authoritarian state.
I can’t think of many countries where the workers have more control.
Then you’re not thinking very hard.
I’m unsure what tankies really are and why people are so divided on them. Are they transphobic?
Some are, but not most (in my experience).
Way back in the day, the term was used as an insult to describe authoritarian communists. I know anarchists used it.
For today, my understanding is that ‘tankie’ still means authoritarians, but I’ve been seeing a bunch of people use ‘tankie’ as an insult to complain about any leftists.
None of this is at all pertinent to this thread, or to transphobia, or to Ada’s action, so it really didn’t belong here.
I have an irl friend who is a self proclaimed tankie and I don’t really know a ton about it. I’ve asked them before, and their take was “you know how you believe in all the far left freedoms and that stuff and anti billionaire morality? Well I’m like that too and believe it’s basically evil, but I just think it should be enforced with an iron fist and literal tanks. Don’t agree? Doesn’t matter. Fight against it? Dead.”
To my understanding, they very much just don’t believe in giving people the choice because people are stupid as hell and will try to corrupt it with bad faith, and so should be iron fisted in bad faith preemptively. Which, to me, is such an extreme and problematic stance. I just didn’t know if there’s some subtle anti trans stuff as part of being a communist/tankie or what, because when they and I talk politics, we don’t super agree on stuff because they’re kind of a sith absolutist about it.
The “literally tanks” part is where the word “tankie” comes from. So you do actually understand tankies.
I will never side with authoritarianism, because having supreme control over every aspect of life means that whoever has that control can and will abuse it.
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These are tough calls to make. On the one hand I applaud the step taken to protect the community hosted by this instance, on the other I also find that simply cuting ties and conversation only furthers the divide.
Sure we should not have to defend the validity of our existence, and also realise that most hate leaves little place for heathy discussions. But in avoiding their echo chambers I find we quiet ours too, we renounce our visibility for our comfort and theirs.
I guess I wish there were other ways to warn users about potentially triggering instances rather than outright defederating, but I do understand your main motives.
You are absolutely welcome to maintain an account on another instance and here if you want to have the option of having those discussions. And I don’t mean that in a “Well, there’s the door” way. What I’m trying to say is that if you don’t want to have the types of conversations you’re talking about, it’s currently very hard to find spaces that make that possible. That’s why lbz exists in the form it does. However, I completely understand that some people do want that opportunity. And if that’s you, you’re welcome to maintain multiple accounts. You’ll always have a space here, but you can also use instances that give you access to less protective spaces.
Censorship lmao. I get where you’re coming from, but pulling a ostrich with your head in the sand is not a productive way to go about it.
I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.
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Go fuck yourself as well. Kindly.
What’s “adult human female” referring to? Asking so I can keep an eye out for this in the future
It’s a transphobic dog whistle. Popularised by UK transphobes. The implication is that trans women aren’t women, and when you see it used, that’s what they’re really saying.
Adult human female is a dog whistle used by TERFs (and transphobes more broadly) to make it clear that they are specifically excluding trans women from the definition of womanhood; that is, it’s shorthand for saying that ‘adult human females’ are the only category of person that can be called a woman.
As a Brit myself, it saddens me how much hate is leeching from my country - especially towards minorities.
Thank you to the mods for making this community open so that people like me can lurk and learn to be better, while simultaneously protecting the people who depend on and need this safe space. Defederating was the right choice.
I won’t pretend I’m well versed in trans issues and struggles - I’m a cishet guy with no real skin in the game but I want to be an ally.
If anyone has good resources for someone like me to read so I can be better armed to refute and educate others who are being hateful, please let me know. The surge in hate after the recent Supreme Court ruling here in the UK has made it painfully clear being passive on the sidelines isn’t acceptable.
Huge apologies in advance if I’ve phrased anything hurtfully. I just want to learn.
And sorry, what is a terf? By context i assumed it’s a transphobe, but you also include transports.
No need to apologize for genuine questions! TERF stands for trans-exclusionary radical feminist. It’s a very, very specific subtype of transphobe that started using the phrase as a dog whistle, and it eventually leaked out into the broader transphobe sphere. All TERFs are transphobes, but not all transphobes are TERFs.
I appreciate the response. Canadian, so apologizing is how we start conversations.
The best part about it IMO is that they’re the ones who started calling themselves that, but once it gained a negative reputation (for obvious reasons), they started claiming that it’s a slur.
Thanks for doing what you do.
It’s ridiculous we are still having to deal with this in 2025. Just yesterday I had to see someone using the tslur as a “joke” under a .world post. Mods removed it. It’s not hard to be decent, although some people decide to make it look like an impossible task. As far as I’m concerned, hate speech is not free speech…
The way I see it, free speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences for what you say. You’re free to walk up to the friend group and act like a jackass and personally insult everyone. And they’re free to tell you to fk off and stop being friends with you and talking to you. That’s not an infringement on your right to free speech, that’s consequences for your actions.
These ‘free speech’ people act like the real world is this place where you can just approach and interrupt any conversation and enter any club without following the rules. They act like groups of like minded people getting together to share interests and ideas without wanting to constantly defend themselves and ‘debate’ their interests and beliefs is some new thing brought to us by the woke agenda.
And so they think social media should be this place where you can say whatever to whoever, wherever you want and if anyone has a problem with that, they’re just anti ‘free speech’ woke libs or some shit.
trans women are not women
Wasn’t this a recent court ruling in the UK? Which isn’t great.
I don’t know all of the terminology, but the entire argument over it just seems so stupid, how does letting trans people exist bother you in any way?
One user upset you and the admins didn’t capitulate exactly how you wanted, so you’re defederating… You’re making way more drama out of it than anyone else. How do you handle any sort of difficult situation in your life?
Neat opinion. Bye.
This is why no one takes y’all seriously. Expecting every interaction to be perfectly suited to you or you opt out. Guess what, life has adversity. Life has difficulties. But if you shut yourself off from everything that makes you slightly uncomfortable, you’ll never grow and develop as a person.
Who do you mean when you say “y’all”? Either way, I’ve faced enough adversity that I’ve overcome to laugh at your comment, and I bet people reading this have, too. Your comment might make you feel better about yourself, but it has very little to do with the realities of the people reading it. I’m sorry you’re not as insightful as you hoped.
If you keep othering people and making assumptions, you’ll stay as ignorant as you seem. That’s not a very productive way to be. I hope it gets better for you.
“You all”. It’s a gender neutral way to reference people. Are you seriously offended by that too?
Keep being insufferable and wondering why the world doesn’t bend to your will. It’s gonna be a miserable life for you.
