• starlinguk@kbin.social
      8·
      1 year ago

      I don’t understand why people say “I trust God”. He had his own son nailed to a cross, FFS.

      People in the middle ages got it right. “I do what God tells me because he scares the crap out of me.”

        • Cabrio@lemmy.world
          01·
          1 year ago

          That’s because for someone who requires evidence before belief there’s rarely been major unexplained phenomena to convince them of the existance of said power from any source.

          I can imagine even the most cognizant person running into problems with assigning things to a god without civilisations aggregated knowledge of concepts like atomic principal, meteorology, astrology, germ theory, social studies.

          Imagine seeing tornados, or super cell storm structures, flooding, plague, tsunami’s, all without a hint of understanding of weather, or germs, or global tidal movements, knowledge that’s only been globally accessible to the common man in literally the last 30 years.

          The normal person’s aptitude to reject god comes down to the ability to understand and explain anything that would prior be considered an unexplainable phenomena, which relies entirely on their grasp of the combined knowledge derived from all civilisations past.

          Education resolves superstition.

            • Cabrio@lemmy.world
              01·
              1 year ago

              Wow you read all that and missed mine.

              Yes they do, because they attribute the powers of nature to god where Athiests do not because they understand the causation and effect.

                • Cabrio@lemmy.world
                  01·
                  1 year ago

                  No I’m not, I’m explaining the differential in information processing, if you think I was trying to flaunt some superiority you’re still just as ignorant about what I was saying.

                  I’m stating they see their gods as all powerful because they attribute the natural phenomena to being of a deities impact rather than something that is just naturally occurring.

                  My second point was that without the combined knowledge and technological advancement of all of the world’s societies there’d be significantly more religious people (as proven by historical record) because they wouldn’t have the tools and knowledge to come to any other conclusion.

                  So no, you didn’t get my point, and you only think it’s irrelevant because you’re too stupid to realise I was agreeing with you.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
    2·
    1 year ago

    That’s the beauty of Christianity.

    The Bible is so full of contradictions that you can get it to fit any worldview you want.

  • VubDapple@lemmy.world
    1·
    1 year ago

    Not only hasn’t read the bible. Also hasn’t seen The Ten Commandments which definitely shows god creating a deadly plague. Charlton Heston would like a word.

    • lamentforicarus@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 year ago

      Or Prince of Egypt which has one of the best soundtracks and great animation. I’m not a Christian but even I know about the damn plague that got those little Egyptian kids.

    • naught@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      1 year ago

      no no don’t you see that’s a facile argument? sky daddy gave us free will to do evil so we had to choose him because… that is… because there… uhm

    • AFK BRB Chocolate@lemmy.world
      4·
      1 year ago

      I was raised Catholic, went to a Catholic high school (was voted most likely to become a priest), and now I’m firmly an atheist. I read the bible multiple times and had a few bible study classes.

      It’s consistently amazing to me how little most christians know about what’s in the bible. It’s always entertaining to see their reactions when I correct them during an argument, or even when they say things like “The Bible says God won’t give you more than you can handle” or “God helps those who help themselves.” Those things, and lots of others that people attribute to the bible aren’t in there anywhere. A lot of times it feels like I’m discussing a movie with someone who only read a review of it.

      • Someone@feddit.ukOPM
        1·
        1 year ago

        I was raised catholic. Nursery, primary, high school and sixth form. Church every week. Extra lessons at the church in preparation for the sacraments. I was even an altar server for a time. I think I must have pretty lucky with the parish priest/my teachers though because I the most important thing that was drilled into us was the “golden rule” - treat others as you wish to be treated. Even as a child I knew the Old Testament stories were just that - stories. We were never ever taught that god hated anyone no matter what. We were also taught about other religions and not in “these idiots got it wrong” way. Judaism and Islam were taught as basically the same as Christianity but with a different idea of who Jesus was. I took Christian theology and philosophy A level and had a fantastic teacher. We spent hours debating the existence of god and we were never told we were wrong if we no longer believed by then. There’s a name for it I’ve forgotten now, but we compared the gospels to look for inconsistencies and examined what that meant for their validity. You were never expected just to believe for beliefs sake. I’m not catholic anymore, I have too many issues with the Church. But it’s shocking how unchristian the current brand of American fundamental/evangelical Christians are. It’s just so far from anything I was ever taught.