The two progressive lawmakers have addressed massive crowds in solidly red states including Idaho and Utah in recent days, as party of the national Fighting Oligarchy Tour.

A survey taken by Harvard’s Center for American Political Studies and Harris between April 9-10 found that 72% of Democratic voters supported politicians like Sanders (I-Vt.) and Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), “who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and ‘fight harder’,” rather than leaders who are willing to “compromise” with President Donald Trump.

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    Bernie can’t be the nominee because if he were to win and subsequently fail and not deliver - exactly what the democrats want and would ensure - they could not march him out to smother the anger again in the next election cycle.

    For what purpose, because when they do this they lose anyway.

    Your reasoning is just, “they can’t risk losing after they win, so they’re just going to lose in the first place instead”. “Democrats can’t risk losing their losing strategy”. Your reasoning is nonsensical.

    Did you not realize that she actually doesn’t answer question but talks gobbledygook around them?

    Kamala is very articulate and laid out some very specific details of plans. She pivoted to “politically correct” when it came to culturally contentious topics like trans rights, which I don’t love, but at least Walz stood on business on trans rights.

    To say Kamala spoke “gobbledygook” is objectively false, right wing propoganda.

    You verbatim speak like a right wing troll hyped up on low effort propoganda spreading horizontal hostility.

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      Losing by just enough is the point. Sounds crazy right?

      I’m going to ask you your questions now.

      In 2016 the vitriol for Hilary Clinton was clear as day while Bernie was gaining support from the working class of both parties and his populist messaging was hitting home. Why didn’t they run Bernie instead?

      Bernie in 2020 had the largest grassroots cross-party working class interest even gaining an endorsement from Joe Rogan which AOC shot down quickly. He had the largest amount of small donors and was kicking ass in the primaries until the whole DNC conspired against him to make Biden the nominee. I have no doubt if he was as supported as Biden was he would have won with a mandate.

      Why did the other primary challengers all fold one by one and throw their weight behind Biden who had received among the least amount of delegates at the time?

      Why did Bernie fold and give that fundraising e-mail list to the DNC?

      If democrats wanted to win so badly, why did they not amplify Bernie and his populist message time and time again?

      Why did they do everything they could from labeling him a misogynist to a socialist in order to paint him in a bad light?

      Why did they do everything they could to prop up the vastly less desireable candidate both times?

      You sound like you carry water for the DNC.

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            You’re not paying attention to Bernie’s fighting the oligarchy tour or facts.

            One of his points on the tour is arguing for an increased minimum wage. Bernie does the opposite of ignoring it.

            @lemming: You’re the one with egg on their face in this conversation right now.

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              One of his points was to throw out pro-Palestinian protestors while proclaiming Israel’s right to defend itself. That’s really fighting the oligarchy.

              Congratulations eggman. Big tent party.

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                The comments you directly ignored were specific to minimum wage.

                Do you think a country doesn’t have a right to self defense?

                Where’s the country you’re in, guessing they don’t deserve sovereignty either?

                That’s a very real conclusion that could be drawn from your statement.

                You’re still covered in schmutz, by smearing the dirty eggs in your face.

                You’re still ignoring the facts, and trying to push buttons.

                There’s no point with a goalpost moving liar.

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            Because your question spam was just a distraction from the original point that "you said something very stupid and nonsensical*, and I called you out on it. Rather than accept any kind of accountability for yourself, you made a desperate bid to take the conversation literally anywhere else.

            You aren’t a real person, 100% of your Lemmy comment history is “I hate Democrats and Bernie” political brainrot trolling. Real people have human personalities and hobbies. You’re an empty shell.

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              Right and you have no ability to self-reflect because you dodged every single question proposed there. Many where rhetorical to get you thinking, but alas the brain seems not be a strong muscle for you so I apologize for putting you through the stress of attempting to use it.

              The fact that you aren’t giving credence to these very real and valid points shows that you are unwilling to learn how and why a large percentage of the population feels this exact same way. No one owes the democrats a vote as you believe.

              It’s ok keep voting for the democrats. See how much more Trump we get. Then you can blame everyone else again.