Trump Official Declaring 'Anyone Who Preaches Hate for America' Will Be Deported Worries Users: 'They Just Skip the First Amendment'
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Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy Stephen Miller's pledge to deport those who "preach hate for America" has sparked fears of free speech violations.

Top Trump official Stephen Miller’s recent declaration that anyone who “preaches hate for America” will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.

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Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

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The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump’s platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller’s is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.

  • lemmylump@lemmy.world
    14·
    6 days ago

    I’m really sick of these fucking Nazis.

    A line has been crossed, especially if you’ve ever taken the oath of enlistment or office.

    It is time to defend our constitution.

  • Prethoryn Overmind@lemmy.world
    34·
    7 days ago

    Some worried the administration was veering into an authoritarian territory.

    Yeah no fucking shit. It has been happening since he got into office you fucking dipshits.

    • jabeez@lemmy.todayEnglish
      51·
      6 days ago

      Yep, and in no small part because of this shit right here, mealy-mouthed normalizing of a fascist.

    • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
      91·
      6 days ago

      Imagine if everyone just donated $10. We could fund our own think tank one that actually does the research, develops strategy, identifies pressure points, crafts effective slogans, and figures out how to organize and target key demographics for real impact.

      I’m tired of the usual approach where people are randomly called to show up and yell. It’s not working. Meanwhile, our opponents are using think tanks to play the long game and win. We’re playing checkers while they’re playing chess.

      We need to face the facts: they’re outmaneuvering us. If we want to stand a chance, we have to stop reacting and start adapting, using some of the same strategic tools, but with our own values and purpose.

      • JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world
        7·
        6 days ago

        They have so much money that they can easily corrupt those initiatives that’s why it’s hard

        They can even buy the president

    • Snowclone@lemmy.world
      134·
      7 days ago

      It wasn’t. At all. And you can clearly see armed people aren’t lining up to stop a clearly lawless authoritarian tyrant from holding power over them.

      • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
        141·
        6 days ago

        This all just got started. People are still hoping something changes before they have to commit murder. By next summer, the attitude will be different.

        • Snowclone@lemmy.world
          35·
          6 days ago

          The law was put on place to maintain a standing US military, which was used to crush rebellions. People aren’t attacking the government to put down tyranny. That’s not a function of the US legal system.

          • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
            6·
            6 days ago

            That is a gross perversion if the 2nd Amendment, and the exact opposite of the intention if the Founding Fathers.

            In a letter of thanks for a copy of the new Constitution, Thomas Jefferson wrote:

            The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

            In the same letter, he also wrote:

            God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion.

            In the same letter he also made an extremely prescient statement that seems to predict the rise of MAGA’s adherance to the Conservative Propaganda Machine:

            The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.

            He was clearly in favor of rebellion, especially since he was instrumental in the rebellion that created America, and they clearly meant the 2nd Amendment to protect us from tyranny by giving us the means to rebel.

  • Log in | Sign up@lemmy.world
    261·
    7 days ago

    Why do Americans still talk about the constitution like it means something or is still relevant?

    Your constitution is GONE. It’s a historical artifact. It has no meaning in today’s America.

    All that matters now is the whim of the emotional toddler in the White House. Get used to it. He’s not going until he’s dead.

    • Pilferjinx@lemmy.world
      12·
      6 days ago

      Don’t worry, we’re promised communism when the US falls into a nightmare fascist surveillance state.

  • p3n@lemmy.world
    23·
    7 days ago

    I can hardly believe that we have devolved so far, so quickly. We are literally one step away from becoming an authoritarian dictatorship. The plan is this:

    1. Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) immigrants. These immigrants will mostly be legitimately illegal and gang associated criminals, but there will be a few individuals with legal standing and no criminal records. This could simply be the result of denying due process, or it could be an intentional test. The important factor is that 5th Amendment Due process rights are denied to all of them. The fact that these people (but be sure to de-humanize them as much as possible) are immigrants will be the distracting factor. <---- We are here

    2. Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) criminals. These will be legitimate criminals with legitimately horrible records; that will be the distracting issue that will be made the focus of the argument: “They are serial killers, rapists, pedophiles, we don’t want them here, so we should get rid of them.” This has already been announced as the plan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfrwWz-m5I . That is not the point! The point is that they are still U.S. citizens, despite their crimes. The significance of this is that it will be the final barrier that needs to be broken, and the final protection that must be dismantled for the final solution to be enacted. If no one steps up and successfully defends the constitutional rights of these American citizens, then all the pieces will be in place for step 3.

    3. Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) political dissidents, rivals, business opponents, and maybe just anyone the administration doesn’t like. If they are political dissidents they will claim that they have committed crimes like, “hate speech against America™”, if they are a minority, they will be “associated with gangs”, if they are business rivals it will have committed “economic terrorism”, or something like that. It doesn’t really matter because they eliminated due process in step 1 (remember that was the important factor, not the immigrant dis-tractor), and without due process they don’t have to prove any crimes. Our last defense would have been the simple fact that we are American Citizens, but we established that doesn’t matter in step 2 because they were “bad people”, but now the “bad people” are whoever the administration decides is bad.

    The context of the 5th amendment is important to understand its intent:

    Historically, the Fifth Amendment draws significant influence from English common law. The grand jury clause specifically dates back to the Magna Carta, and was designed to protect accused persons from prosecution by the English royalty. In keeping with that intention, the Constitution’s framers opted to adapt the grand jury to the Constitution, so as to protect citizens from prosecution by the federal government.
    Reagan Library

    Even in a Monarchy, which is not the form of government we are supposed to have, the Magna Carta offered protections against the King from prosecuting commoners, which is the origin of this amendment. We aren’t just devolving to pre-revolution America, which had enough disagreements with the rule of King George III that it sparked a war…no we are devolving to a pre-Magna Carta England type of Government. We are descending into middle-age feudalism with complete authoritarian rule… and we aren’t fortunate enough to have a dictator like Alfred the Great.

  • Match!!@pawb.socialEnglish
    22·
    7 days ago

    america means freedom and diversity and immigrants. the trump administration hates america

  • TON618@lemmy.world
    13·
    6 days ago

    If America wants people to stop hating, maybe instead of trying to wipe it’s ass with the first amendment, it should stop cultivating hate with it’s actions.

    • StinkyFingerItchyBum@lemmy.caEnglish
      7·
      6 days ago

      If America wants people to stop hating

      What makes you think that is on the agenda? Hate is their specialty. A divided people are no threat to the oligarchy. Hate for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

    • SwordandArt@lemmy.world
      7·
      6 days ago

      Hate has been actively cultivated online through various psyop campaigns over the years. It may have started offline but it skyrocketed with the growth of the internet to specifically destabilize the US.