• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    Try making any post that focuses on situations uniquely or disproportionally experienced by women and you get mostly “what about men” or “men have it worst” responses.

    that’s kind of just how controversial things are on the internet though.

    Evens shitposting from men will get similar responses from women, it’s just how it is now. Sort of always has been.

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      1 day ago

      THIS. EXACTY THIS RIGHT HERE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN.

      Me: talks about issue disproportionately affecting women.

      Lemmy User: It’s not really about women. Everyone suffers from this.

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        1 day ago

        Lmao look at that douchebag’s comment history. Its arguably worse that than comment itself. God I wish there was a male loneliness epidemic because these fuckers stopped talking.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        yeah bro, it’s the internet, everybody has opinions.

        “yeah so actually i think this is a big problem”

        “yeah evidently it must be a problem, but like, this has always been a problem, and seems to be a consistent problem”

        “YOU’RE LITERALLY THE PROBLEM!!!”

        Lemmy User: It’s not really about women. Everyone suffers from this.

        also to be clear, you are literally straw-manning me here, i’m not saying that “men have to suffer with women having an opinions” nobody cares, it is what it is, i think it’s interesting actually. You’re the one arguing that because people discuss topics that they find personally relevant is somehow “oppressing women”

        I’m not saying you shouldn’t shitpost about that stuff in shitpost threads, by all means do, there’s interesting dialogue in it. I’m just saying this is a common occurrence anywhere on the internet, for any community. Hell go find a community for something as mundane as lego, you’ll find the same shit there.

        Not everybody NEEDS to have their own specific issue that specifically effects them for it to be a valid or real problem. I just think this issue is far broader than most people expect it to be, ironically, i could argue you’re literally behaving the exact same way you claim i am. Because you are, and that’s exactly what’s happening.

        Do i care? No, i don’t it’s the internet do whatever you want.

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        1 day ago

        I bet you can take any situation and make yourself a victim

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          Stttooooppp you’re giving me old school internet sexism nostalgia. 😂 That 2008 energy.

          Do you miss halo 3 lobbies too?

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          Nah but have you ever considered that the reason that you think that there is a male loneliness epidemic is because nobody wants to hang out with insufferable misogynists?

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            no, i don’t think that’s a reasonable answer, because you’re doing the fascist thing of “these people are wrong they need to change, and if they don’t we can justify whatever shitty behavior we want, because we’re morally superior”

            It’s not dissimilar to a lot of nazi rhetoric.

            I think the problem ultimately stems from a disconnect in social development through out society. Feminism has pushed women forward, successfully in a lot of ways, but it has also pulled men back, in a lot of ways, that’s not necessarily bad, but there is now a void there, and there is nothing filling it in, that’s why the manosphere got so big so fast. It’s literally capitalizing on an empty market.

            If you want to solve the manosphere, the solution is simple, we need to fill in the void, and fix this disconnect that’s been happening for probably 75 years now. How we go about that is complicated, and not particularly simple, but i think it’s pretty clearly evident that the problem is aimless/directionless guidance for men especially in the last 20 years. Paired with historically contradictory ideas of manhood. Men are supposed to be strong and protect the weak, but it’s hard to do that when they don’t want it, or need it.

            Once this void is filled in, this shit stops happening, simple as.