I was playing around with Lemmy statistics the other day, and I decided to take the number of comments per post. Essentially a measure of engagement – the higher the number the more engaging the post is. Or in other words how many people were pissed off enough to comment, or had something they felt like sharing. The average for every single Lemmy instance was 8.208262964 comments per post.
So I modeled that with a Poisson distribution, in stats terms X~Po(8.20826), then found the critical regions assuming that anything that had a less than 5% chance of happening, is important. In other words 5% is the significance level. The critical regions are the region either side of the distribution where the probability of ending up in those regions is less than 5%. These critical regions on the lower tail are, 4 comments and on the upper tail is 13 comments, what this means is that if you get less than 4 comments or more than 13 comments, that’s a meaningful value. So I chose to interpret those results as meaning that if you get 5 or less comments than your post is “a bad post”, or if you get 13 or more than your post is “a good post”. A good post here is litterally just “got a lot of comments than expected of a typical post”, vice versa for “a bad post”.
You will notice that this is quite rudimentary, like what about when the Americans are asleep, most posts do worse then. That’s not accounted for here, because it increases the complexity beyond what I can really handle in a post.
To give you an idea of a more sweeping internet trend, the adage 1% 9% 90%, where 1% do the posting, 9% do the commenting, and 90% are lurkers – assuming each person does an average of 1 thing a day, suggests that c/p should be about 9 for all sites regardless of size.
Now what is more interesting is that comments per post varies by instance, lemmy.world for example has an engagement of 9.5 c/p and lemmy.ml has 4.8 c/p, this means that a “good post” on .ml is a post that gets 9 comments, whilst a “good post” on .world has to get 15 comments. On hexbear.net, you need 20 comments, to be a “good post”. I got the numbers for instance level comments and posts from here
This is a little bit silly, since a “good post”, by this metric, is really just a post that baits lots and lots of engagement, specifically in the form of comments – so if you are reading this you should comment, otherwise you are an awful person. No matter how meaningless the comment.
Anyway I thought that was cool.
EDIT: I’ve cleared up a lot of the wording and tried to make it clearer as to what I am actually doing.
Ah nice, I encountered a Poisson-distribution in the wild today. I shall recount this encounter to my children.
Goodhart’s Law: “When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.”
Not entirely sure how this applies to the discussion, it just came to mind lol
I disagree that commenting for the sake of commenting is a good idea. Quality over quantity, a single meaningful discussion is superior to a sea of low effort garbage. I also want the fediverse to take off, but not at the cost of adopting modern Reddit culture.
a “good post”, by this metric, is really just a post that baits lots and lots of engagement
Baiting anything is bad.
Well exactly, that was kind of the point of this post. Hence “good post” being in air quotes. It being a silly idea as well.
Completely agree with you on that last point.
Add a TLDR or this post won’t get a lot of traction either
Confirmed. I see “Poisson distribution” I start skimming lol
I comment very seldom and only if i think that I can contribute. I see no need to write anything if I got nothing of significance to add.
Maybe I should. Add comments that is uplifting and kind more often.
I try to be positive, but my way of life are very different from other people’s; and i end up doing more harm than good, if i’m forcing myself to be friendly and nice.
I comment a shit ton and often with absolute banalities. Especially on posts with 0 comments.
My reasoning is twofold: first of all I want to encourage posters by engaging with their content so they don’t stop posting. Second I want to invite others to comment and it’s much more inviting to do so if a post has at least one comment. People tend to think it’s dead otherwise and not bother.
I think at the current level of MAUs there is no comment too small, and every little bit helps just by virtue of breaking the silence.
Well said
My meagre contributions pale in comparison to your efforts, but I do what I can.
I feel guilty now. Yes, everything you just said is true.
I shall become a better… Lemming(?) and comment a few times every day.
Average Fediverse Experience:
Post comment
Waits 24 hours
zero replies
zero votes
not even a downvote
check post viewed from other instances
can’t find the comment
realizes that the comment never federated
now too much time has passed since the original time of the post, and the joke you commented is no longer funny anymore
😭
Or other people created the same joke without ever seeing your post
This comment will be sad if you don’t engage with it.
This comment is part of a tree-datastructure that represents the branches of discussion.
Ohhh poor thing here have an upvote and a comment.
We had the chance to upvote this heavily without leaving any comments, but we blew it
post is too [good] unfortunately
post is too unfortunately
they don’t think it be like it is but it do
accidentally a word
What the hell is this?
A dying gasp collected from the old internet.
I accidentally the whole thing! I miss that one.
Considering the upvotes, you guys seem to have filled in just fine
I upvoted you, because it was funny and made me laugh :D
Why would you make a comment while knowing how this works. Everybody stop commenting! Don’t even do it as a meta-comment joke!
Right! Sorry.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!
https://pawb.social/u/LemUrun ruined it!
You need a factor for niche communities. A post with 4 comments in a backpacking community with 20 subscribers is way “gooder” than 40 comments in a 5k subscriber news community.
I.E. add a community size factor.
that could be because it is an AMAZING post – it covered all the points and no one has anything left to say
Finally, I know why.
This does happen with comments sometimes. I go into a post and someone has already eloquently said what I would have said (often better than I would have). So I upvote it and move along
Fun break down! More comments is more interesting than more posts for me
Well then, here, have a comment.
A post by fediversechick
I think one needs to include parameters like how soon after the topic was created the comment was made and how deep is it in the comment tree. If you for instance consistently comment on 1 month old topics or reply on comments ten levels deep you will get very few interactions.
Well exactly, I’ve said this elsewhere in this thread, this was mostly something that I thought was cool. That said I might try and figure out how to include that data, if I can find it.
Doing my part to make this a good post, cause it was.
I support your support.
Okay. Look. We both said a lot of things that you’re going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster.