• Olhonestjim@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Correct. Communism has never been allowed to succeed. Either it’s been co-opted by fascists and dictators from within, or it’s been crushed by the CIA from outside. Many small attempts have shown great promise, however, before the greedy and powerful slaughtered them.

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      12 days ago

      If it’s so easily defeated, don’t you think that maybe it’s inherently flawed? A good system would account for the greedy and powerful.

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        11 days ago

        Aw gee, let’s see; 3rd world nations attempting to create a future for their people vs the CIA. Clearly the problem is a flaw in their political philosophy, not the ruthless, overwhelming superpower that doesn’t want to see that happen because prices might go up.

        Jesus Christ.

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          11 days ago

          Russia has never been 3rd world, they’re the definitive example of 2nd world. They’re literally where the term 2nd world comes from. And China is plenty industrialized too.

          And if they can’t handle hostile powers, then it’s a shit system.

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            11 days ago

            And what did I say about nations attempting communism but being quickly taken over by dictatorships?

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                11 days ago

                What a strange idea to consider; that a nation attempting an early experiment to improve society might somehow be drawn off course early by wealthy, powerful psychopaths.

                My goodness, this must be the first time in human history.

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                  10 days ago

                  When there’s hundreds of millions of lives at stake, you don’t fuck around with an “early experiment”.

                  But the experiment did show one thing, that communism is inherently flawed and will turn into a dictatorship

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                    10 days ago

                    Bullshit. When the established power base forces millions of lives into destitution, revolution is the only acceptable solution. After which you change your government to benefit the people. Communism wasn’t the problem. The problem is Russia has had a cultural obsession with strongmen for centuries. That was their problem under monarchy, under communism, and now under capitalism.

                    In fact communism was the best thing that ever happened to Russia. They used to be peasants. They improved literacy, their industrial capacity, and built a middle class. They beat America to space. But they just couldn’t find it in themselves to overthrow strongmen, and that is why they suffered.