I didn’t say anything about solitary! Don’t put words in my mouth.
We as a society have laws. People who break those laws go to jail. This functions as a method of restraining them from harming us. We could decide to just kill them instead!
But we don’t!
And of course I feel the need to remind you that my original point was in regards to Frodo’s status as a hero. Most people aren’t heroes and never will be. Tolkien believed that society needs heroes to look up to for moral guidance.
At the same time, he was redefining what it means to be a hero. He believed that the old idea of a hero, one who seeks glory and honour, was a bad ideal. In response he created the modern ideal of a reluctant hero who is selfless, not glory-seeking.
You must not have read LotR too closely if you didn’t think Frodo suffered. He was stabbed by the Morgul-knife which left a wound that pained him for the rest of his life. He was bit by Shelob with a paralyzing bite that left him listless. He lost his finger to Gollum and never got it back.
When he returned to the Shire (and settled down after the scouring of the Shire) he found he could no longer find happiness in daily life. He suffered intensely with PTSD and the pain of his old wounds. When he was offered the opportunity to sail off to the undying lands (home of the Valar and the place to which all elves were leaving Middle Earth for) he took it. This was him admitting he could no longer live a happy, normal life among people who had not felt the trauma of war as deeply as he had.
I didn’t say anything about solitary! Don’t put words in my mouth.
We as a society have laws. People who break those laws go to jail. This functions as a method of restraining them from harming us. We could decide to just kill them instead!
But we don’t!
And of course I feel the need to remind you that my original point was in regards to Frodo’s status as a hero. Most people aren’t heroes and never will be. Tolkien believed that society needs heroes to look up to for moral guidance.
At the same time, he was redefining what it means to be a hero. He believed that the old idea of a hero, one who seeks glory and honour, was a bad ideal. In response he created the modern ideal of a reluctant hero who is selfless, not glory-seeking.
sorry the solitary was tongue in cheek
but don’t use the word laws around here, don’t you know they are only threats made by the dominant socioeconomic-ethnic group in a given nation
as to frodo being a hero I agree, heroes in a story also rarely suffer for their poor judgement and stuff just works out
You must not have read LotR too closely if you didn’t think Frodo suffered. He was stabbed by the Morgul-knife which left a wound that pained him for the rest of his life. He was bit by Shelob with a paralyzing bite that left him listless. He lost his finger to Gollum and never got it back.
When he returned to the Shire (and settled down after the scouring of the Shire) he found he could no longer find happiness in daily life. He suffered intensely with PTSD and the pain of his old wounds. When he was offered the opportunity to sail off to the undying lands (home of the Valar and the place to which all elves were leaving Middle Earth for) he took it. This was him admitting he could no longer live a happy, normal life among people who had not felt the trauma of war as deeply as he had.
sounds like a tuesday but real people don’t get the jesus allegory elven wonderland at the end
but yea all his suffering is relatively personal and he won in the end, so kinda minor
still pretty fantastical it resulted the way it did