• xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org
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    19 hours ago

    Yes, and that’s precisely why we need Ladybird, no matter what pronouns it uses for users.

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        13 hours ago

        The developer literally said he’s not opposed to gender-neutral language, he just didn’t want to accept a random non-technical contribution by somenoe who had never interacted with the project before.

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          11 hours ago

          It takes no effort to refuse a PR without making a comment that even the basement dwellers of /r/conservative would have realized would be sensitive and politically charged.


          The developer literally said he’s not opposed to gender-neutral language

          It isn’t really important what the developer claims; if they don’t act according to their claims, then there’s no point. Even I know how to build sandcastles in the air.

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            7 hours ago

            Hey, I’m coming from a heavily utilitarian view, so please allow for that in my question.

            Let’s say there is a pro coder who is amazing at debugging, but is incredibly antisemitic. They have little to no interactions with colleagues and are keeping the hate to the appropriate boards (X, I believe it’s called nowadays). Should we contract his work and apply it where applicable?

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              The issue I have with Ladybird is that the remarks were made *by one of the “lead” developers". In a huge project with thousands of developers, it is inevitable that some of my code is made by a person with unsavory views. However, I dislike the fact that such a person is in charge of the project.

              I have no problems with the code itself. Code is code. But it is moreso the leadership of the Ladybird Foundation that bothers me. I’d like for one of the options to come true:

              • Andreas apologizes for his actions and acknowlege the recklessness of his words
              • The Ladybird Foundation has a change in representation
              • The project is forked and maintained by a different corporation

              Personally, I’m excited about Servo. Not only due to the leadership, but because it is made Rust. As we all know, Rust has a carcinized logo that gives you the legal right to spam rocket (🚀) emotes.

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              … and are keeping the hate to the appropriate boards (X, I believe it’s called nowadays). Should we contract his work and apply it where applicable?

              There is no “appropriate board” for hate speech, whether it’s antisemitism, transphobia, or anything else. If you wouldn’t want someone to be a nazi in your office, why would you pay them if you know they’re a nazi somewhere else? Is it fine as long as it’s someone else’s problem?

              On another level, if you had to pay a developer, and you have reason to think they might donate the money you give them to an antisemitic cause, or directly use it to fund their own antisemitism, would you still want to give them that money? Or maybe look elsewhere, even if it means getting something slightly worse?