• takeda@lemm.ee
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    Has anyone sent it to their MAGA friend and the person responded “yep, you were right”?

    I understand this has good intentions, which I support, but I think this still needs to be changed. I don’t care them admitting me they were wrong or were lied to, but I do want them to admit it to themselves, get past the divide and work together to fix what we have now.

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      I don’t need anyone to admit anything. I see maga voters getting on board, so apparently they already admitted to themselves they were too tired and stretched too thin, so were duped. It’s not like our educational institutions do anything to help that, especially in red states. We have consistently defunded education since Nixon.

      All I need is their motivation to work together. We can work out ideological differences with patience and fortitude, forgiveness and understanding, as we do that

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        Are they getting on board? I stopped following the news ever since Trump got elected because it became way too depressing.

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          At least in my area. Not everyone but a not-insignificant amount. One of my parents is and that’s saying quite a bit.

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            I’m very surprised they’re not choosing to blame the democrats for that as well….or the fact that “we’re sending all the money to Ukraine”. 

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              I mean don’t get me wrong, there are POC here that think maga is awesome, one of my neighbors does, and they’re all less informed, but the neighbor that does seems like a decent person. Scratched the surface of Buddhism, Hinduism but still believes in satanic panic crap, but we still have decent conversations, share things when we have a need, swap YouTube links, and it’s just mind-boggling to me. I just think he’s indoctrinated. He doesn’t seem racist, sexist, misogynistic either but… Idk I guess we all have our blind spots so I have hope of my parent can come around, this neighbor can, too. Idk about the POC though. And I miss the cheerful immigrants who used to work here. I hope they went home on their own rather than (risk) ice.

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        I don’t need anyone to admit anything.

        It’s standard operating procedure in human civilization for someone who was wrong to admit they were wrong before the person or people they wronged can work together with them.

        This isn’t some huge ask. They were wrong. People got hurt. They need to admit their error before they can be trusted.

        I see maga voters getting on board

        Do you?

        It’s not like our educational institutions do anything to help that, especially in red states.

        It doesn’t take Einsteinian levels of genius to look around you and go “Hmmm, shit kind of sucks and we’ve been exclusively electing Republicans in this region my entire life.” No, they’d rather blame libs in other parts of the country, or people with darker shades of skin.

        All I need is their motivation to work together.

        Cool. My motivation is knowing they’ve changed by admitting they were wrong.

        We can work out ideological differences with patience and fortitude, forgiveness and understanding

        They want women to be second class citizens and don’t want trans people to exist. How do you propose we get past a hurdle like that?

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        I’m not the one that was betrayed. It’s the Constitution, our fore fathers, and the millions of men and women that died for our freedom that were betrayed. None of them are here so all you can do is find forgiveness from yourself. But are you going to stand by the train tracks as an endless row of people are slaughtered or are you going to say something?

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      Actions speak louder than words. I trust the MAGA voter holding a sign that says “Fuck Trump” over someone that can’t be bothered to walk away from their TV or video games.