• DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Man, porn is scripted you know. And by men for men.

    No, I don’t know. Considering how much of it there is, I am surprised you are able to know all (or most) of it is scripted, and even more that it is by men for men. You must be a true porn expert. /s

    Besides, are actresses in normal movies not expressing themselves because the movies are scripted?

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        First of all, don’t ignore half my comment. I believe (almost) no consensual porn is demeaning to all women (or “vision of womanhood”). Maybe some is “demeaning” to the actress specifically, but that is it.

        Second of all, what even is your argument? What are you arguing for? That some porn being demeaning would mean porn in general is demeaning? Would this apply to movies? Books?

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          I’ll ignore as much parts of your comments as I want when you don’t answer to mine but derail the discussion.

          However let’s explain. Porn, in its mainstream form, doesn’t show a sane form of sexuality, where the desires and needs of all participants are met, but shows women as objects of male pleasure. If, from an individual point of view that doesn’t present any problem (I won’t kink-shame women, nor men, nor gender fluid people, who like being sexually reified), as a form of media it normalizes a vision of womanhood as essentially inferior to manhood, as women being necessarily at the service of men, and thus is a product and reinforcement of rape culture.

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            I’ll ignore as much parts of your comments as I want when you don’t answer to mine but derail the discussion.

            You accuse me of derailing the discussion, then pivot from claiming porn is “demeaning” to “it reinforces rape culture”. One has nothing to do with the other and I don’t feel like addressing random unrelated arguments you pull out.

            However, I find it intriguing that you believe most mainstream porn focuses only on male needs. In my experience browsing anonymously (VPN, anti-fingerprinting), there is roughly equal amount focusing on women needs.

            I suspect your view may be distorted, for example by algorithms feeding you content they expect you to enjoy.

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              You don’t think being reified is demeaning?

              However:

              I suspect your view may be distorted by algorithms feeding you content they expect you to enjoy.

              And an accusation. Let’s stop, you don’t discuss in good faith.

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                9 hours ago

                You only see it as an accusation because you internalize the kink as bad. I prefer male-dom content. I am not ashamed of it. There is nothing wrong with it.

                If you look past your prejudice, you should be able to see what my actual point is.