Cant imagine making 30 k a year and having to pay even 1600 in taxes. This is saying it will increase that much.

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    The population has been made isolated at the community level. There are very few local groups doing any reaction at all to this.

    And violent reactions which are successful are a group action; it’s very seldom an individual, in any era of history, changed the politics by themselves.

    And as long as there are no impromptu gatherings of significant frequency, there will be very little violence.

    The internet is not a replacement for community driven change which powers all social and political movements, peaceful or not.

    The turning point, if there is one, will be lots of local meetings by the thousands , and not until then. No matter how violent or passive the individuals be

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      Americans won’t form violent groups because they’re trapped in the mind prison of nonviolence. They think violence is wrong.

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        What are you smoking?

        The only country in the whole world with thousands of school shootings annually thinks violence is wrong? The country where the police force is trained to view themselves as an occupying force and civilians are enemy combatants is averse to violence? The country who’s leader is currently cheerleading multiple genocides is peaceful?!?!1?

        Can you even define “violence?” Because this country personifies it.

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          The country’s political classes are violent. The people are trained to be nonviolent. This gives the state a monopoly on violence, which cements their control. Americans will be free when they stop worshipping at the shrine of nonviolence.

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            You’re right. Right after we stop driving our cars though protestors and shooting people through closed and locked doors we can “stop worshipping at the shrine of nonviolence.”

            “America’s is nonviolent” is probably gonna go down as the singular stupidest thing i read all year. 'grats.

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        There is still a lot of violent potential in all this population, it just needs to be nurtured by a working grassroots movement. And that is broken. Just like you can drive a car with a working motor, that has a busted axle; you cannot lead violent people to do things if there is no place to hook up or meet in person.

        This applies to the people who oppose you as much as you, and I mean anyone. So, the current situation is sort of a stabilizing force at the moment

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        It’s because it IS wrong. Animals resort to violence when they don’t get their way.

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          Don’t kid yourself, you’re pro-violence if you’re okay with how the system is now.

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            Where in what I said did you interpret that I was okay with how the system is?

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              You just claimed all violence is wrong, in reply to why people are choosing “nonviolence” which is a liberal propagandized view because the entire system is predicated on very active violence, just not in front of the consumers.

              Also odd to call all animals wrong for “choosing” violence, I’m not certain how you define it, but colloquially violence is either inherently part of how nature works or a choice that is within some human defined morality that cannot be blanket applied to other animals.

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                “LiBruL pROpAgAnDa!”

                For fucks sake. It’s not propaganda to think violence isn’t the answer to political problems. Have you never heard the saying “two wrongs don’t make a right?” If not, learn it, if so, them tire being willfully obtuse.

                And you know damn well I didn’t mean “animals” to imply actual animals. It’s a term. How about you replace “animals” with “losers,” or “assholes” instead.

                Lastly, I tend to avoid arguing with smug and arrogant people that try and rub pseudo-intellectual bullshit all over everything. So…

                Have a day.