You know, DOGE, fascist president and corporations dictating what people can do, institutions being ruined, laws being ignored. Is there any way out of that or is it over? Is the USA done?

  • j_overgrens@feddit.nl
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    2 days ago

    It’s telling that nowhere in this thread there’s mention of the US demolishing it’s relationship with its most important ally, Europe.

    The US is a lost cause, nationally and globally. It might save it’s state, but repairing a (already wobbly) international reputation will take decades.

    • fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world
      13·
      2 days ago

      Yeah destruction is done quickly, reputation and generally constructive policies (especially internationally) takes time.

      What the US/Trump-Administration is doing, is just dumb (even for themselves). Europe almost has to slowly(?) cut ties with them, with what they’re currently doing. And I do think “cutting ties with the US” increasingly gets more popular for a reason… Let’s just hope that the same fate won’t come over europe and that the current success of right-wing parties in europe is temporary…

    • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      2 days ago

      There’s a few points I maybe want to bring up on this, though.

      Through Trump’s installation, many learned what USAID was for the first time. For all it does in the world, it was never tooting its own horn. Sure, its existence is a tradeoff we made to allow for the fact of having one of the strongest military presence. But I still don’t think its existence and actions up until now should’ve been taken for granted.

      Plus: Other nations in Europe cannot currently claim to be beyond manipulation via far-right rhetoric and misinformation. Germany is currently dealing with those issues in its own elections, and the very identity of that country is rooted in acknowledging the evils of 1940. Vladimir Putin targeted the United States because it was their biggest singular obstacle to expansion, acknowledging that there’s no single presidency to easily “corrupt” the European Union.

      I agree that much blame lies on the USA’s population for so gullibly accepting such terrible campaign lies. I just don’t think that kind of evil ignorance is uniquely American, and the rest of the world needs to stay vigilant, rather than assuming all threat will come externally.