• JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee
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    7 hours ago

    Yes, the western media source is still in line with the narrative of other western media sources. That article was mostly for pointing out that one big misconception of things happening in the square. Much of the other stuff, including what you showed, is still anecdotes. People saying what they can remember of what they think they saw. Many people wouldn’t be able to distinguish between a massacre and a war zone. Like I said, what makes something a massacre is more about how it’s carried out than any certain number. Here’s a pretty disturbing photo album.

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    The purpose of this link is to counter the narrative of the Chinese military attacking peaceful protesters. Note that the vast majority of burning vehicles are army vehicles. Note that the most gruesome images in this collection are of dead soldiers. Including the two of what appears to be a commander who’s been stripped naked, burned, and hung from a noose.

    That’s photographic evidence. Evidence that contradicts the idea that it was just a peaceful protest. Yet another seed of doubt on the general accuracy of western reports.

    • ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml
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      6 hours ago

      Most of the pictures of the dead are of protesters, and they’re plenty gruesome.

      That’s photographic evidence. Evidence that contradicts the idea that it was just a peaceful protest. Yet another seed of doubt on the general accuracy of western reports.

      But importantly, do you know the timeline of events leading up to that one soldier being burned and hung up? Probably not, since there aren’t any timestamps for it that I’ve been able to see. When I throw the first image into google translate, it turns some of the writing on the bus into “he killed” and “return blood.”

      That’s obviously not a complete or accurate translation, but do you think it might be possible that that particular soldier was killed after committing some crimes of his own? Do you know when and where the violence started, and by who? I’m guessing not, because the whole event is pretty heavily censored by the chinese government. And that censorship is a large part of what makes me think that the government was in the wrong, and that “massacre” is an accurate term for the hundreds of civilians that were killed.

      Many people wouldn’t be able to distinguish between a massacre and a war zone. Like I said, what makes something a massacre is more about how it’s carried out than any certain number.

      Even if we assume the chinese government was “fighting a war,” if they’re sending armed soldiers and tanks into their own cities to fight against mostly unarmed “combatants”. One might say that the use of such overwhelming force in a fairly one-sided battle could be called a massacre.