You were having a whole ass meltdown claiming solar power isn’t worth it without any proof while ignoring any counter proof and got put on timeout for it and now claim that it’s because the mods love oil.
Do you think I’m wrong that this specific product is worth the investment, seeing as there is no evidence it will pay itself off or do any good for the environment? Am I wrong, or am I right but just a bitch about it?
So the premise for you saying they won’t pay themselves off was that they’d go bad first which in the age of planned obsolescence is a fair assumption. However people have given you, granted anecdotal, evidence that their panels are still almost as effective after 10-20 years (don’t remember the exact numbers). People have also shown you that the manufacturers give a 20 year efficiency guarantee so buying at a manufacturer that is existing long enough that you can assume they will still be there in 6 years should be safe because if they’re not as efficient you get your investment back.
So presented with counter evidence you chose to instead double down, grasping at Chinese companies called something a bottom would say when given attention by an attractive top. You threw around big oil somehow preventing them from paying off in the long run.
That, I think, is frankly rude, very counter productive to an actual discussion, and probably stemming from a lot of frustration about how the consumer is always carrying the burden of doing something against climate change when like ten thousand of us get offset in our efforts by like 50 mid millionaires or 1 billionaire (numbers completely pulled out of my ass but you get what I mean).
That frustration is completely fair but it’s not what you communicated. I honestly think, that while I wish for more Luigis, we little people also have to do our part. It doesn’t help to get rid of all the billionaires when we still consume as much beef and drive on gas. Getting rid of billionaires is a step necessary to educate people on better ways to consume because they counteract education with populistic propaganda which honestly doesn’t look very dissimilar to what you did.
Sure it is.
You were having a whole ass meltdown claiming solar power isn’t worth it without any proof while ignoring any counter proof and got put on timeout for it and now claim that it’s because the mods love oil.
How is that fair representation?
Do you think I’m wrong that this specific product is worth the investment, seeing as there is no evidence it will pay itself off or do any good for the environment? Am I wrong, or am I right but just a bitch about it?
It’s just a solar panel and those are well known to work well.
I’m leaning more towards a bitch who’s wrong.
So the premise for you saying they won’t pay themselves off was that they’d go bad first which in the age of planned obsolescence is a fair assumption. However people have given you, granted anecdotal, evidence that their panels are still almost as effective after 10-20 years (don’t remember the exact numbers). People have also shown you that the manufacturers give a 20 year efficiency guarantee so buying at a manufacturer that is existing long enough that you can assume they will still be there in 6 years should be safe because if they’re not as efficient you get your investment back.
So presented with counter evidence you chose to instead double down, grasping at Chinese companies called something a bottom would say when given attention by an attractive top. You threw around big oil somehow preventing them from paying off in the long run.
That, I think, is frankly rude, very counter productive to an actual discussion, and probably stemming from a lot of frustration about how the consumer is always carrying the burden of doing something against climate change when like ten thousand of us get offset in our efforts by like 50 mid millionaires or 1 billionaire (numbers completely pulled out of my ass but you get what I mean).
That frustration is completely fair but it’s not what you communicated. I honestly think, that while I wish for more Luigis, we little people also have to do our part. It doesn’t help to get rid of all the billionaires when we still consume as much beef and drive on gas. Getting rid of billionaires is a step necessary to educate people on better ways to consume because they counteract education with populistic propaganda which honestly doesn’t look very dissimilar to what you did.
pretty fucking wrong