He was a right winger 2 years ago, he retreated from social media etc for a long while, so it might not even reflect his current views.
And if it does? Well, then he’d be a right winger and would have done more for class struggle than I ever did, and most likely ever will. Still very much worthy of respect, even as I’d disagree with most of his views.
Even if he is, the right wing noise machine is trying to get out ahead of this. They don’t want their base which is very prone to violence getting any ideas about who is really actively harming them (and it isn’t POC, it isn’t trans, it’s not the left, it’s not women…).
I haven’t read his manifesto or anything but he seemed pretty much against fossil fuels and insurance companies, what are we basing his political association on?
It’s complicated. His politics doesn’t seem to fit neatly in any box. If you wanted to pick out facts to paint him as too right wing for the right wing, you can do it. If you wanted to pick out other facts to paint him as the new coming of Weather Underground, you could do that, too. He’s also at a time in his life where your politics can shift around a lot, so posts from just a few years ago may not reflect where he is now.
I can say one thing with certainty: he hates people who are worth hating.
Or maybe he just didn’t give a shit about any of that and was just really pissed off at health insurance companies, felt that all representation had failed us, and the only solution left was violence
But people will read an article that has barely any info and jump to wild conclusions based on pure speculation to categorize him on one of the “teams” rather than assume he is one of the vast amount of politically apathetic individuals that make up america.
so tons of the right wing will move to paint him as a leftist, because it’s simple with the lack of info available and the current rhetoric surrounding the event, because it is advantageous to them. the left wing will move to distance themselves because there is info available that casts doubt on his being a leftist and again it is advantageous for them to distance.
And while both spend time shitflinging away responsibility for this person, who never claimed either side, it will deflect from discussing the very real issue he exposed with his act: the health care system in this country is so fucked up that when it drives someone to murder an executive a huge amount of people cheer them on
Seriously, if I was a decade younger, a wee bit more well off, and less tied down by family, I could absolutely see myself doing what he did, especially pushed with back pain.
That said, if the FBI is reading this post because I did do something, no I didn’t, you didn’t hear nothin’ from me.
His twitter reposted a right wing Billionaire, the one that paid to have Hulk Hogan go on stage and ask people to vote for Donald Trump. He’s also made a lot of statements about the Unabomber and been anti-immigration in the past.
Maybe instead of assigning him to a group we should all agree he wasn’t of calm or consistent mind.
Did you watch the video? It’s like a 20 second clip of the guy saying lots of tech people are neurodiverse and thus don’t allow their dreams to be crushed. It’s simplistic bullshit, but resharing it seems pretty centrist as it’s not rwnj content.
And fuck no? I consider this man one of the most sane, and he calmly planned and worked hard to achieve a noble goal.
In particular, he really emphasized remorse about any collateral damage and took significant steps to minimize it. His statement about the unibomber was essentially “Good motive but horrible execution that hurt a lot of innocents”
In his attack there was a nearby bystander who saw literally everything and he neither harmed her nor appeared to threaten her in any direct manner. He moved to pass her so she could flee.
I still think murder=bad but he took real steps to make sure the only damage from his actions was on the CEO and himself.
I realize I’m nitpicking, but if Charles Koch made a nice informative tweet about some random benign shit like first-aid I wouldn’t suddenly be spreading to the world the message of Charles Koch. I wouldn’t actively promote the enemy of us all.
And also they shouldn’t be making generalizing stereotypes like that in the first place.
MAGA? Luigi is a right winger
He was a right winger 2 years ago, he retreated from social media etc for a long while, so it might not even reflect his current views.
And if it does? Well, then he’d be a right winger and would have done more for class struggle than I ever did, and most likely ever will. Still very much worthy of respect, even as I’d disagree with most of his views.
Even if he is, the right wing noise machine is trying to get out ahead of this. They don’t want their base which is very prone to violence getting any ideas about who is really actively harming them (and it isn’t POC, it isn’t trans, it’s not the left, it’s not women…).
I haven’t read his manifesto or anything but he seemed pretty much against fossil fuels and insurance companies, what are we basing his political association on?
It’s complicated. His politics doesn’t seem to fit neatly in any box. If you wanted to pick out facts to paint him as too right wing for the right wing, you can do it. If you wanted to pick out other facts to paint him as the new coming of Weather Underground, you could do that, too. He’s also at a time in his life where your politics can shift around a lot, so posts from just a few years ago may not reflect where he is now.
I can say one thing with certainty: he hates people who are worth hating.
https://newrepublic.com/post/189162/uhc-united-healthcare-shooter-what-we-know-right-wing-politics
So no.
No right winger is going out and following AOC or saying the stuff he did in his manifesto.
At worst he was a bit of a tech bro. Honestly he sounds like a shitlib that finally got radicalised into a leftist.
Or maybe he just didn’t give a shit about any of that and was just really pissed off at health insurance companies, felt that all representation had failed us, and the only solution left was violence
But people will read an article that has barely any info and jump to wild conclusions based on pure speculation to categorize him on one of the “teams” rather than assume he is one of the vast amount of politically apathetic individuals that make up america.
so tons of the right wing will move to paint him as a leftist, because it’s simple with the lack of info available and the current rhetoric surrounding the event, because it is advantageous to them. the left wing will move to distance themselves because there is info available that casts doubt on his being a leftist and again it is advantageous for them to distance.
And while both spend time shitflinging away responsibility for this person, who never claimed either side, it will deflect from discussing the very real issue he exposed with his act: the health care system in this country is so fucked up that when it drives someone to murder an executive a huge amount of people cheer them on
As a leftist I’m not moving to distance my self from him whatsoever. That sounds more like a shitlib thing tbh.
Seriously, if I was a decade younger, a wee bit more well off, and less tied down by family, I could absolutely see myself doing what he did, especially pushed with back pain.
That said, if the FBI is reading this post because I did do something, no I didn’t, you didn’t hear nothin’ from me.
On whatever time a crime may have been committed, I would like to say that @taiyang@lemmy.world was with me in person and doing nothing illegal.
His twitter reposted a right wing Billionaire, the one that paid to have Hulk Hogan go on stage and ask people to vote for Donald Trump. He’s also made a lot of statements about the Unabomber and been anti-immigration in the past.
Maybe instead of assigning him to a group we should all agree he wasn’t of calm or consistent mind.
Did you watch the video? It’s like a 20 second clip of the guy saying lots of tech people are neurodiverse and thus don’t allow their dreams to be crushed. It’s simplistic bullshit, but resharing it seems pretty centrist as it’s not rwnj content.
And fuck no? I consider this man one of the most sane, and he calmly planned and worked hard to achieve a noble goal.
In particular, he really emphasized remorse about any collateral damage and took significant steps to minimize it. His statement about the unibomber was essentially “Good motive but horrible execution that hurt a lot of innocents”
In his attack there was a nearby bystander who saw literally everything and he neither harmed her nor appeared to threaten her in any direct manner. He moved to pass her so she could flee.
I still think murder=bad but he took real steps to make sure the only damage from his actions was on the CEO and himself.
I realize I’m nitpicking, but if Charles Koch made a nice informative tweet about some random benign shit like first-aid I wouldn’t suddenly be spreading to the world the message of Charles Koch. I wouldn’t actively promote the enemy of us all.
And also they shouldn’t be making generalizing stereotypes like that in the first place.
Oh man, bro was reposting Peter Thiel lmao. You’re correct, Phoneymouse, good link.
A part of me envies him for still being able to appreciate Hulk Hogan despite how awful a person he is.