• nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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    3 hours ago

    You don’t have to let it slide, I welcome you to analyse the situation to the fullest of your abilities.

    I just think trying to compare it to Ukraine is quite dumb. Even now you have to move your argument from the '67 situation to the broader idea of the partition of Mandatory Palestine. Morocco’s annexation of the Western Sahara territory, for example, is much more comparable in that regard than the classic cold war style territory push happening in Ukraine.

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      1 hour ago

      What’s dumb is comparing a conflict between two native populations over territorial conflict to an actual occupation by people who came from all over Europe to steal land of people who lived there

      The 67 occupation is connected to the partition where zionists didn’t really believe in it as stated by their own admission

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        1 hour ago

        You seem to have a very, very simplistic idea of the rather complicated and less black and white history here

        The first immigrants that expanded the congregation that eventually grew into Israel were ‘internal’ , hoping that this would allow them to escape or alleviate discrimination by their Ottoman rulers. But the first ‘big push’ in those early days came from Ukraine and Russia, hoping to escape the genocides and creating a new country from a slice of the crumbling Ottoman Empire.

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          7 minutes ago

          The ottoman empire was not only hostile to Jews but also Arabs that’s why there was Arab tribes that revolted against them. Palestinians has nothing to do with the ottomans wrong doing and to what happened to Jews in Europe.I will also reiterate that zionist leader didn’t believe in respecting the potential partition