Nationally, a study by Yale researchers determined that “the excess [COVID] death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters.”
They are literally being deceived to death.
This is a natural outcome of conservatism, what is conservatism trying to conserve? The existing power structures in society of course. So the power of God over man, of men over women, of white people over other races, and of rich over poor. Science must be rejected because science gives evidence against the supremacy of god, men, the white race and the rich.
Also, the stereotypical conservative is someone who loves to be lied to.
They don’t love being lied to. They love being told they’re great and wonderful and better than “others”. That that is a boldface and egregious lie is not the part they focus on.
No, they are literally thrilled by being lied to. That’s why we have Qkooks, Birtherkooks, Bircherkooks, Sandyhookkooks, Start the Steal kooks, Hermancainers etc. Conservatives keep making up 100% total hoaxes over and over and over. They think dishonesty is a virtue and honesty is a vice. It doesn’t even matter if yesterdays lie “it was Antifa” completely contradicts today lie “they were tourists”. All that matters is the thrill they get by not having to acknowledge reality in this particular moment.
They love thinking that they’re superior to other people. They feel this way by “knowing the truth” that the rest of us don’t accept because we stick with what “liberal science spoon feeds us.”
It’s the same situation as a moon landing conspiracy theorist. They feel superior because they can “see through the deception of the moon landing” while the rest of us just accept what every scientist even remotely linked with the moon landing says. Sure, their conspiracies are easily debunked, but they just don’t accept any debunking as valid and instead continue on.
They feel like their lives are meaningless so they find meaning in being part of the “select few that can see past the conspirators’ lies.”
About the whole God thing
https://newrepublic.com/post/174950/christianity-today-editor-evangelicals-call-jesus-liberal-weak
This has been their platform literally forever; rather than have to learn anything or improve themselves, just deny that knowledge or betterment exists.
Yep. One of the 3 core Republican party slogans is this:
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
Didn’t work for drugs, definitely not going to work for science. Like a quarterback who keeps running the same three failing plays.
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the right wing racists are using a same tactic in Australia to block the indigenous people from having a voice in parliament with a ‘if you don’t know vote no’ campaign. we’re having a referendum which means we’re changing the constitution, the gist is we’re going to finally properly recognise the aboriginal people (the ones that lived here for 60k years plus) and give them a permanant ability to voice their concerns in parliament.
it’s disgusting and transparent for the anti information angle, however it sadly seems to be working and now likely the people that have endured mass genocide will again be silenced by the white right elites. Australia will remain one the most racist places on the planet.
First and foremost, I’ll be voting yes.
The problem with our referendum is that it appears to burn a lot of political capital for the sake of gesture politics that is unlikely to change anything of substance. The voice has no teeth and almost everything about it will be determined by the courts at the time.
Now, it’s better than nothing, and I don’t expect it’ll come at the expense of the lack of better alternatives on the horizon, but it’s frustrating we can’t do something more meaningful.
A reminder: it’s what the First Nation Council asked for. It’s a decade of work that has been approved and agreed upon by everyone involved.
That is, what you’re complaining about are features, not bugs.
Edit: also, for it to have teeth in the future, Australia needs to get more Greens or other suitable 3rd parties into power which support The Voice.
While hopefully Australia will get The Voice, which will mean it won’t be able to be easily removed - what’s important (as always) is voting for the future of Australia and not coal.
Exactly. A voice shouldnt have teeth either, but id like it to have some reasonable powers of compelling testimony as well as an ability to formally ask for records but that’s just me personally.
Vote yes!!
Voice also won’t do anything though. If politicians want to hear the voice of the people they can go listen to them.
The companies ruining indigenous land have been financing the voice referendum, an advisory body like that could easily be used to justify themselves. It’s gone that way before. “Progressive No” has the best opinions, listen to Lidia Thorpe and those that put treaty first, both sides want to assimilate indigenous people into settler colonial society. Both a yes and no victory will be a success for the racists.
You can’t fix stupid.
/“It’s Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark Twain
If you squint and slightly misinterpret it, Darwin says stupid will fix itself eventually.
You just have to not save it at the last second.
Unfortunately they compromise herd immunity for the people who can’t get vaccinated for legitimate reasons, so they’re intent on taking a few of us with them.
Unfortunately, my wife’s niece has leukemia and as such doesn’t really have her own immune system, so not only can she not get the vaccine, she would almost definitely die if she got covid.
When we got married, we decided masks on for the event, and that made our first choice maid of honor to flip her shit on us about how we’re not kuzzling her, and called us sheep. Then she got a face tattoo.
A few of her family members decided to no longer speak to us over masks, even though they KNOW her family and know her niece is immunocompromised.
When we got married, we decided masks on for the event, and that made our first choice maid of honor to flip her shit on us about how we’re not kuzzling her, and called us sheep. Then she got a face tattoo.
Damn. She’s definitely committed to……something, I guess? What was the face tattoo of, and does she have a job? Just curious how that’s working out for her.
It was baffling, apparently she got some kind of dagger.
She started an OF apparently and I guess recently got a job at an Amazon warehouse, my wife sees updares on social media but they don’t talk anymore.
Huh. Interesting character for sure. Well, congrats on the marriage, & thank you for mandating masks through all of that.
Not much short of magic is going to stop climate collapse at this point, so I think we’re good on that front. Hopefully it gets us all, this whole mess will only start over if it doesn’t.
Isn’t killing your constituents a bad long term political strategy?
They don’t plan to win with votes.
Republicans no longer believe in the Republic.
They’re all in with this guy Gerry. He’s manderin’ all over tarnation!
They already don’t have a long term. They have to do a coup this decade or they’re fucked. Loyalty is more important than long term voting here
Covid was a great litmus test for that question and republicans failed miserably
stupid people breed more, so so long as the birth rate among republicans less the excess death rate outstrips the birthrate plus the excess survivial of the democrats then they will increase their vote share.
whether that’s the case or not i don’t know but they have other pokers in the fire. attacking education in multiple ways for instance. dragging the next generation down to their level.
Their well documented gerrymandering
Their attacks on the fabric of democracy itself. if you can’t win elections, get rid of them.
Their stacking of the courts
In true Republican fashion however, they’ve flubbed it. The youth is overwhelmingly for Democrats and outright loathes Republicans. Either controlling the poor hasn’t turned out that effective for them*, or it’s too early to see results. And in the meantime, they’re killing their already aging and dwindling base.
*I think they’ve failed to brainwash young poor children. The vast majority of people I graduated high school with a decade ago, in the Midwest, have become clearly liberal and Democrat. Even the ones who were conservative in school.
They’re targeting Gen Alpha though (and the one after that). Gen Z is just about out of K12, but their younger siblings have to deal with stuff like PragerU being part of the official curriculum. I hope the teachers can work around it, but it looks grim.
If only more people voted.
Republican politicians live by “I’ll be gone, you’ll be gone” at the end of the day.
They know the rest of us will be stuck holding the bag.
My parent actually said this to me.
These people barely see to the next election. Rarely beyond the fiscal quarter.
You’re kidding yourself if you think they have any long-term policies. Anything they’re doing is to have an immediate effect, even if they’re doing it at the cost of their own well-being.
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Well they aren’t smart.
That’s why Fox News famously started touting the vaccine after it came out. They realized their base was dying out faster than democrats. This backpedaling helped push co serrations away from fox News to other sources.
They see science as an antagonist belief system to theirs. They don’t understand what science is and they don’t want to.
Isn’t science just a prediction and utilization of observered phenomenon? Original sin is obtaining knowledge, aka don’t question. It’s so dumb
Yea, I explain it to the lay folk as a tool for understanding our world, not a system of belief. However to most of these people ignorance is purity, so it’s an affront to them regardless.
Original sin is gaining knowledge of only good and evil, and what the difference is. Eden was a paradise of amorality where humans could live without worrying about whether an act was good or evil. They would have been wild animals living on instinct, doing whatever felt pleasurable, and avoiding things which cause anguish. Instead, they ate the fruit and became ahsamed of all of the things they’d done, even of simply being naked. Then God cast them out for disobeying him.
It had nothing to do with knowledge in general. Original sin was disobeying God. You should understand the myths you’re mocking.
I’m sorry, but to me this still comes across as punishment for gaining knowledge, because that was what was forbidden in the first place. They were punished for disobeying what? - The prohibition of gaining knowledge.
It can certainly be interpreted in a number of ways, but I think you’re missing a key element of the story. Humans gaining ‘knowledge of good and evil’ is the process of humans becoming self-aware. Rather than simply unselfconscously being what we are without judgement, we sort our behaviors into good and evil. Suddenly they know they’re naked, and the question they’re faced with isn’t ‘why do you care that you’re naked?’ but ‘who told you that you’re naked?’. Animals are naked too, but they’re not aware of it because they’re not hung up on the mortality of their own actions.
It’s not so much, to my reading, that there’s an active decision being made to kick them out as that they’re no longer capable of benefiting from it. Their self-consciousness itself prevents them from being able to continue to enjoy that primordial state of being before the need to second guess themselves.
It represents the loss of human innocence. It’s not that they did wrong and were punished, it’s that they came to view the world in a way that’s harsher.
I agree with your interpretation completely. I definitely prefer viewing it as a metaphor and I think you’ve explained the metaphor perfectly. My former reaction was triggered by @CrayonRosary’s sentence “Then God cast them out for disobeying him.” I thought I would try to review their more literal interpretation from the same point of view as them – I find it to be an interesting excercise that can lead to better understanding.
“BoTh SiDes ArE thE sAMe” - Half the posters on reddit and lemmy.
From the time they’re born until the day they die conservatives are taught that intelligence is a sign of weakness and that the only right answer to and problem is unwavering ferocity.
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It’s literally an issue of them not understanding it. Most progressive policies when explained to them they agree with, they’ve just been taught to hate names. It’s just so hard to teach people.
This is pretty much it. The difference between a lot of younger people, and a lot of older people, is that while I will hear a term I don’t understand, and pause for a minute to research what it is, someone like my dad would go “I don’t understand any of this dogshit, get off my porch”
No cars either, if Moses can walk a desert for 40 years you can walk your ass to the quick-e-mart for your chewing tobacco and lottery tickets.
I, for one, respect their right to die early of easily preventable natural causes. I don’t like that conservatives are a danger to everyone else, but they were deadly toxic long before Covid.
I know some people on the left have to be the “better” person and all thay but honestly with all the damage republicans have and are doing, I honestly am happy they died of their own stupidity. Prevents them from doing more harm.
Fuckem.
If they didn’t compromise herd immunity this would be 100% true, but unfortunately they do.
Freedom baby
just dont look up.
The movie was so good yet so horribly FRUSTRATING because it’s way too fucking accurate
Fun fact: that movie was made pre-COVID
Holy shit, I assumed most of it was direct satire of COVID
Iirc it was a satire of their views on climate change.
Pool Shark!
This is correct.
McKay got a lot of shit for this film being so on the nose, but the fact that it quietly worked as an allegory for both climate change and covid is a testament to how well it lands its message. Like Idiocracy, not a 10/10 movie, but undeniably prophetic.
I think the reason it works so well, and what the movie got right, was how the right uses rhetoric to downplay anything that isn’t in line with their goals to maintain power.
The same movie could have been made to satire Trans people, left handed people, immigrants…anything the right hates.
saw this 2 days ago for the first time, it should be rediculous satire NOT A DOCUMENTARY!
great movie though
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everyone who votes Republican is as intentionally ignorant as possible, and you’re all assholes because of it
a bare majority of Republicans told a Politico poll that they think the COVID vaccine is safe and effective — 52%, to be precise
Still somehow quite the indictment against Fox News.
They’ve done this for 50 years, what makes this news?
It needs to be said every day.
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Dumbasses love Google though. My anti-science anti-government dirtbag relatives cannot stand science but they use Google for everything because they’re dumb as fuck.
Without it they would never have been able to connect with other dumbasses “prepping” for the end times or whatever they think.
The world is so much better with them living where you can’t grow food.
living where you can’t grow food.
That’s some high level prepping right there…
So you just have to find a way to get them mad at computer science. Problem solved/exacerbated.
I hope that they say no to medicine so that getting a GP gets easier.
They’ll still go to the doctor. They’ll just bitch and moan more and take up more time.
