• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    That all tracks. I’m sorry we’re a country that doesn’t take care of its people. I’m used to doing the good that I can with my own two hands, in full knowledge that this country won’t, but I was pleasantly surprised that my state (Missouri) voted down an abortion ban and to approve a $15 minimum wage in the election last week, so at least here it isn’t all bad. (Yet.)

    I’m a Green Party voter, so both sides hate me and generally blame me no matter how the election goes, and I’ve found myself vehemently disgusted with both Democrats and Republicans, particularly over the last 30 years as both parties have become proxies for monied American business interests. Growing up the son of a self-employed roofing contractor taught me a lot about how little this country will do to help you, being part of a family that did well half the year and was dirt poor the other half.

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      I’m not in love with democrats, either, don’t get me wrong. I’m far to the left of them.

      I wasn’t always disabled, and had a couple of good decades as a firmware and software developer and UXD, and I built my career from nothing in the late 90s, teaching myself and staying ahead of the curve. I was doing pretty well until about 15 years ago when autoimmune issues started attacking my nervous system, causing seizures and massive GI issues, to the point I literally can’t eat food anymore.

      I HATE not being able to work, and would do literally anything to have my career back.

      But despite how much disdain I have that the democrats aren’t what I wish they would be, fascism is objectively worse in every conceivable way. For me, it’s a matter of life and death.

      I’d rather not have to vote against fascism, but that’s how far the Overton window has shifted, and there were only two choices. We chose wrong.

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      I’m a Green Party voter

      Are you one of the ones responsible for making Donald Trump president by voting for Jill Stein? Because all available metrics indicate that we’re in for way harder economic times under Trump (or even just Republicans in general). Anyone actually paying attention to Biden’s policies knew we were slowly climbing out of a hole the pandemic and the Trump presidency left us in. And we were climbing out of that hole faster than other countries affected by the pandemic. Now you can kiss that goodbye. Not to mention, Democrats are historically better for our economy than Republicans.

      So if you voted for Jill Stein you really have no room to complain about the economy. You just helped make it worse.

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        So if you voted for Jill Stein you really have no room to complain about the economy. You just helped make it worse.

        Dems had the presidency and Congress and you didn’t hear a single one of them talk about raising wages or addressing corporate corruption after campaign time apart from Bernie Sanders. They certainly didn’t use their power to make the lives of the working class and poor better in any meaningful way either.

        You and the other Democratic partisans do not support workers apart from speeches and soundbytes. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter what they said. It matters that they didn’t do anything meaningful.

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          Dems had the presidency and Congress

          When and for how long? Because they had a majority for a short time at the beginning of Biden’s presidency but two “Democrats” kept voting against Democrat legislation, destroying their very slight majority. One of them has since declared themselves independent and has been voted out of Congress.

          you didn’t hear a single one of them talk about raising wages

          Biden had to use exectutive order to raise the minimum wage of federal contractors, because he can do that without Congress, because they’re federal employees. Another Biden accomplishment that went right over your head. It’s also largely up to states to determine minimum wage. In California we just voted on raising the minimum wage higher than it already is, which I believe is $15, which is higher than a federal minimum wage increase would be anyways.

          addressing corporate corruption

          Democrats introduced an anti-corruption bill in 2019. Again, when they actually held a majority for a short period in Biden’s presidency, those two pesky “Democrats” kept voting their legislation down. One of them was making big money from the oil industry. Again, it was a majority, but an ultra-slim majority. Can’t get much done with that.

          You need to understand that your opinions are formed from a place of ignorance. You are commenting, and voting, from a standpoint of ignorance. Which is largely why you are a Green Party voter. A party that cannot, and will not, win an election, because they haven’t done the national canvassing necessary to build a coalition that can actually win federal elections.