- cross-posted to:
- trump_watch@lemm.ee
- cross-posted to:
- trump_watch@lemm.ee
On election night, as the results looked to be in Trump’s favor, the baseless conspiracy theories about fraud began tapering off.
On election night, as the results looked to be in Trump’s favor, the baseless conspiracy theories about fraud began tapering off.
One person is not a conspiracy theory. “I believe…” is what I wrote. Trump is a convicted criminal, proven liar and a deadbeat who stiffs people. It’s quite logical to look negatively on an individual who admires dictators and the worst genocidal person in history (so far).
Sure, but you are not the only person here, who is taking that narrative.
Sure Trump is a fucking Bastard. But we hit quite hard on the right for speeding their conspiracy “stolen election” shit in 2020. I just don’t think it’s sensible to turn that around. With clear cut evidence: sure thing. But just making the accusation… Na, not so much.
And yet we are comparing one persons speculation against the man who has lied on record over 30+ thousand times while he was pretending to be president. We are all entitled to our opinions. I am not leading the charge to be like maga but blue. If I was, you would be correct in screaming at me because you should tell people they are in a cult. I was bring up a possibility that the nasty orange nazi probably broke the law, again. Because, that’s his actual job.
I honestly don’t see how I am or was screaming at you and u apologise if it came across as such. You are stating your opinion, which you indeed are entitled too. I am stating why I disagree. I am not attacking you as a person, or trying to belittle you for it. I simply don’t think it beneficial (for the left) to hold the view you have stated without evidence.
Trump is a con man and a liar, absolutely. But for pulling of something on this scale it needs way, way more than one person. And all of them would have to hold tight, no leaks what so ever. That just doesn’t sound realistic to me. I do hold the view hat we should base our opinions in fact, not speculation. I don’t mean this as an attack. Ist just my view.
I am also not accusing you or anyone of beeing in cult.
I said it before to another person here, I’ll say it again: I understand how you, how we all are angry, hurt, devasted even after this election. I share those emotions very much.
I still don’t think we should copy the behaviour of the other side. I know you feel justified in your option. So do they. That doesn’t make it more or less true though. Cult like would leave no room for discussion what so ever tough. I think we have that room, and are engaging in it right now. I think indeed the very fact that we are able to exchange opinions on this shows how this is very much not a cult.