Summary

In October 2020, Samuel Paty, a French teacher, was murdered following a false accusation by a 13-year-old student who claimed he’d shown anti-Muslim bias. The girl had made up the story to cover the fact she had been suspended from school for bad behaviour.

In reality, Paty’s lesson on free speech included optional viewing of Charlie Hebdo cartoons, but he hadn’t excluded anyone. The student’s story triggered a social media campaign led by her father, who, along with others, is now on trial for inciting hatred and connections to Paty’s attacker, an 18-year-old radicalized Chechen.

The school will be named the Samuel Paty School from next year.

  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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    18 days ago

    I’m not sure what you think is the dogwhistle, it’s directly mocking the claim of Islam being a “religion of peace”

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              18 days ago

              Why would I be nice to bigots? That’s what got us in the whole mess that is another Trump presidency and Europe sliding into fascism in the first place. If you want to have a taste of what tolerating this ”I‘m just pointing out facts“ leads to go back to any random politics subreddit and see what has happened there. I don’t need this in here. I’m tired of it. I‘m not special, I’m like 99% of people out there, I’m nice if you are. Being a bigot isn’t being nice.

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                17 days ago

                I agree with the premise of this statement, although this was about someone saying “religion of peace” to mock the Muslims who say it, I don’t believe that’s bigotry, it’s just irony. Also, who knows, maybe Catholics or some other religion commit more of these acts, but it’s difficult to know through the news alone, and religion of peace is already a Muslim stereotype, fully justified or not.

                For the record though, I also follow your stance about not being nice to bigots, unjustified hate should only stay in the mind, but that possibly has the risk of radicalising someone further.

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                  17 days ago

                  And I think it’s totally fine to criticize religion, especially organized religion that instrumentalizes people for their own political gain. For the sake of free speech that has to be possible.

                  But this specific mockery imo comes from a very particular crowd that comments this under every article that is about a Muslim read person committing a crime. And then if you base your observation on news articles there’s unfortunately a long history of institutional racism that creates a bias in our perception through overreporting in the media and overemphasis in law enforcement.

                  Maybe to bring across my point, if a Zionist settler/soldier does some terroristic/genocidal, we also don’t establish a connection between their actions and Judaism as a whole, because we would be rightfully accused of antisemitism. In the same way, the actions of a few extremist individuals shouldn’t hold hostage the other 99.9% of the 1.5bn Muslims who live peacefully. I think I wouldn’t care too much and would agree that it’s just mockery if this wouldn’t be so common to read on right wing platforms. I don’t want to let any malicious actors shift the Overton window in here to where it is in most other social media.

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      18 days ago

      It’s a racist dog whistle because you are indicting the entirety of a religion based on the actions of a single person and their view of that religion. It is bigoted and ignorant, which is not the solution to this problem of religious radicalization.

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        18 days ago

        Nothing racist about it. I don’t care if you’re white, black, or purple. I don’t hate the followers of Islam, but the religion itself is utter trash - as are all religions, and especially Abrahimic ones. Patriarchal bullshit.

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        18 days ago

        Islamic extremism isn’t some one off instance. Even violence over cartoons and such isn’t a singular instance. So fuck off defending that shit.

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          18 days ago

          Of course it’s not a one off instance. It’s the 2nd biggest religion in the world. There’s a lot of people who identify as Muslim. Just because some of them fall to extremism and commit atrocities does not damn the entire faith. If that’s the case then declare your faith or lack of it and I will fill an unlimited count of its crimes.

          There’s a difference between a religion having an extremism problem, such as Islam and a religion being inherently extremist. You ever consider why Islam has an extremism problem now in modern day and not say, the Islamic golden age?

          Bigoted and ignorant. As much as the extremists you hate. Your just not violent. Yet.

          • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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            18 days ago

            I’m not religious. Have at it.

            There’s a difference between a religion having an extremism problem, such as Islam and a religion being inherently extremist.

            There’s a saying about bad apples you might’ve heard. Especially true if there’s loads of those bad apples.

            Bigoted and ignorant. As much as the extremists you hate. Your just not violent. Yet.

            “You’re almost as bad as the fucked up murderous extremists, apart from being murderous.”

            I guess calling them out is almost as bad lmao.