• pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online
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    22 hours ago

    Your hypothetical situation regarding abortion is happening as we speak, and the democrats are fighting it. I’m not sure where you’ve been for the last year.

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      22 hours ago

      In fact it’s one of the other major reasons why we need to vote democrat. RvW was overturned because SCOTUS is stacked with republicans. You want to prevent shit like that happening again, you need to vote so we can rebalance the courts.

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        19 hours ago

        The democrats have openly refused to pack the courts. How are they supposed to campaign if they don’t have Republicans to threaten us with?

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          12 hours ago

          The democrats have openly refused to pack the courts. How are they supposed to campaign if they don’t have Republicans to threaten us with?

          I used to think these kinds of comments were silly jokes. But, the more that the Dems just allow everything to slip rightwards, it seems like this is really their strategy, and I’m worried it’s not a joke.

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            7 hours ago

            Don’t worry, when the Republican party falls apart after Trump loses and the Democrats are the pro-fracking, pro-genocide right wing party there will be space for the union movement to assemble a new left coalition.

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              7 hours ago

              I hope all this actually happens, as the US would be a better place with serious political representation that isn’t different flavours of Conservative. But I won’t be surprised if it does not, plenty of people are happy to vote for bigotry.

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                I predicted this back in 2015 when the Democrats started openly conspiring against Bernie. If the 2024 dem incumbent dropped out, not only would Trump lose, but his loss will split the party and the infighting will destroy it.

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                  6 hours ago

                  Hate fuels Republicans into resisting infighting. They have someone else to hate more.
                  I worry that it’s the left which tends to infight themselves into irrelevance.

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              17 hours ago

              yeah obviously moderate dems and DINOs like Manchin are never going to go for that. If that’s your bar for voting for democrats you’re being completely unrealistic.

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                14 hours ago

                Realistically, we’re going to have to demand the impossible if we want to solve climate change and half a dozen other major existential issues.

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                  12 hours ago

                  Realistically, we’re going to have to demand the impossible

                  What’s impossible is asking humans to work together for the good of all. Enough people think that such behaviour is treason that they will start a violent insurrection to stop it.

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                  16 hours ago

                  and how do you intend to “demand” that? if you mean withholding your vote until they cater to your specific view of the way things should be done you’re going to be waiting forever. and in the meantime republicans will keep fucking things up even worse.

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      12 hours ago

      and the democrats are fighting it

      Yes, and I worry that they will keep fighting it from a further and further rightwards position, meaning rights are eroded while they position themselves.