The Justice Department is suing Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott over a floating barrier that the state placed on the Rio Grande to stop migrants from entering the U.S.
Those buoys are deployed by the Texas National Guard who answer to the governor of the state of Texas and is property of the state.
The commander in chief could hypothetically commandeer their property and dispose it but requires a lot of legal hurdles and time to write warning orders, operational orders and fragmentary orders to deploy the US military to get it done.
It’s cheaper and easier to get the SCOTUS to order it illegal and force them to do it themselves with their own state money instead of federal money. Rather than burdening US taxpayers, lets burden Texan taxpayers to fix the problem they themselves created.
Your neighbor parked his pickup truck in your driveway to deliberately block you in and said he can’t move it because it’s broken down. Are you going to pay for a tow truck to haul it away or make him pay for it?
Yes - same way Trump couldn’t send in the military and had to rely on states’ national guards to clear protesters before that infamous photo-op in front of the church
Your right, but OP was incorrect in using the word policing when the Act passed by congress actually uses the words “domestic” law enforcement; (imo) arguably this includes any action that stems from edit: ACTING enforcing laws on domestic, as opposed to foreign, soil. Further the exceptions allow for military to “provide” resources that support domestic enforcement officer which (again imo) would not extend to ‘not providing/actually removing’ resources that domestic enforcement officers do already have…
All that to say what the act does do is create a grey area that can be argued either way and which does force the federal government to have to think twice about using the military for such matters… for better or for worse
Not sure why the commander in chief can’t just order them removed and let Texas deal with the US military if they don’t like it.
Those buoys are deployed by the Texas National Guard who answer to the governor of the state of Texas and is property of the state.
The commander in chief could hypothetically commandeer their property and dispose it but requires a lot of legal hurdles and time to write warning orders, operational orders and fragmentary orders to deploy the US military to get it done.
It’s cheaper and easier to get the SCOTUS to order it illegal and force them to do it themselves with their own state money instead of federal money. Rather than burdening US taxpayers, lets burden Texan taxpayers to fix the problem they themselves created.
Your neighbor parked his pickup truck in your driveway to deliberately block you in and said he can’t move it because it’s broken down. Are you going to pay for a tow truck to haul it away or make him pay for it?
Couldn’t the feds do all that then sue to recoup the cost after? Hell take parallel paths and just let the quickest win.
National Guards are commanded by Federal gov, otherwise they could be seen as a militia with insurrection abilities.
They do actually have their own state military. IIRC, they’re called state defense forces, and multiple states currently have them.
(Edited to fix my weird link)
Texas “National” Guard. lol
Posse comitatus, for one
I don’t think removing unauthorized barriers from a US border would qualify as domestic policing.
Sending in the military to enforce legal guidelines is literally that but okay?
Oh no, one of our states is unilaterally performing acts of war, but pOSsE cOmITatUS, guess our hands are tied, aw shucks
Yes - same way Trump couldn’t send in the military and had to rely on states’ national guards to clear protesters before that infamous photo-op in front of the church
Those guys were from BoP if I recall correctly
Sometimes it’s good to be reminded teenagers use the internet, too, I guess.
Let us know when you hit 20.
My knees really wish
Well said!
And I left reddit for this…
You can always tell when you’re debating a child. There’s no factual debate, just emotional, cutesy quips that garner upvotes.
Works on social media! Not so much when you have to produce and report results IRL.
I’d love a “porn” social media, where you have to prove your age to participate. How much saner would that be?!
Sending the military to remove an obstruction at the border is not policing.
Your right, but OP was incorrect in using the word policing when the Act passed by congress actually uses the words “domestic” law enforcement; (imo) arguably this includes any action that stems from edit: ACTING
enforcing lawson domestic, as opposed to foreign, soil. Further the exceptions allow for military to “provide” resources that support domestic enforcement officer which (again imo) would not extend to ‘not providing/actually removing’ resources that domestic enforcement officers do already have…All that to say what the act does do is create a grey area that can be argued either way and which does force the federal government to have to think twice about using the military for such matters… for better or for worse
Edit for clarity
What is it, then?
It’s removing an obstruction at the border.
So they’re janitors?
Are you unclear on what obstruction means?