Hi all,
I posted a similar thread around the Oct 7 events, but it’s come up again. My partner and I were just watching youtube late at night, and we saw a PBS video about “parts of america being most affected by climate change” or what not, and we assumed it would be more of a ranking of best cities in terms of climate change (we enjoy daydreaming about moving to certain cities etc), but this video was a tad more doomer than expected, where they showed how in like 30 years half the country would basically be uninhabitable with a half the year with 100+ degree days, and a lot with 125+ degree days etc.
Now seeing these quite grim projections didn’t really phase me, I mean I’m a member here so I’m well aware how in general the world has been about climate change. But they had a bit of a mild panic/shock because they are still liberal enough where they just assume ‘the good guys will win’/‘we just need the democrats in office/kamala to win and we’re fine’…they then had a moment of worrying about personal responsibility like we should all be really careful with recycling, not buy from Amazon etc…which is good to do but I also explained how us as individuals have pretty much no power to do anything as long as companies and governments don’t care.
I guess my main issue/anxiety about this kinda stuff is that with them, we’ve been together 5 years and planning on getting engaged before the end of 2024. But I just get this nagging feeling of ‘is it going to be a shock to them if we can’t ever buy a house (that’s one of their biggest dreams) or similar stuff based on how the world works, since they basically block out all bad/sad news’ …I do have avoidant tendencies in terms of attachment styles so I do kinda look/second guess on big decisions involving relationships, but it still feels a bit like I should almost sit them down and run them through the true possibilities of how shitty things can get in terms of never retiring/owning a house/climate change etc, but then I feel guilty for almost searching for a reason to find something bad about our relationship.
Sorry if it’s quasi-venting, just a bit of late night ramblings.
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how us as individuals have pretty much no power to do anything as long as companies and governments don’t care.
eganism is the single most impactful choice most people can make insofar as reducing GHG emissions and carbon-positive land use [1-2]
[1] Veganism is ‘single biggest way’ to reduce our environmental impact, study finds
[2] Reducing food’s environmental impacts through producers and consumers
Eating your landlord is vegan!
A whole fucking lot of climate change would not have happened already if it weren’t for the global demand for industrialized animal cruelty to produce meat treats. The numbers are there, the science is known. There’s nothing left but treat defense tribalism and status quo laziness… but that’s been enough to prevent any significant societal change so far.
but it still feels a bit like I should almost sit them down and run them through the true possibilities of how shitty things can get in terms of never retiring/owning a house/climate change etc,
maybe not in these terms (i.e., don’t traumatize them with doom, listen to them and pace the conversation appropriately for their capacity to think about the great unraveling), but I think this lies in the direction of a really good idea
I had a serious and rather uncomfortable conversation with my partner about expectations regarding climate change, longer term planning for ourselves and where we physically want to be, implications that all of these factors (and our states of (un)health) have on family planning, that kind of thing where we really started examining our longitudinal wants, needs, and expected constraints. It’s been an ongoing conversation since then but I can’t imagine planning to be in any kind of long term relationship without having that kind of conversation in the first few years
I really struggle with this one. To have people in my life who lose their shit over the chance that Trump might get elected, yet won’t pause over Gaza or transphobia. I really struggle to have any sort of relationship with those people.
I posted a similar thread around the Oct 7 events, but it’s come up again. My partner and I were just watching youtube late at night, and we saw a PBS video about “parts of america being most affected by climate change” or what not, and we assumed it would be more of a ranking of best cities in terms of climate change (we enjoy daydreaming about moving to certain cities etc), but this video was a tad more doomer than expected, where they showed how in like 30 years half the country would basically be uninhabitable with a half the year with 100+ degree days, and a lot with 125+ degree days etc.
To some credulous liberals that try to wear leftist masks when coming here, the answer is dumping even more carbon at an increasingly faster rate to expand the proliferation of treat printers, I mean, LLM data centers, all under the status quo argument that the planet-burn-accelerators will magically dig around all the data they sucked up and spit out a magic planet-burn-deceleration device.
That goes for a lot of status quo advocacy: just trust the Adults In The Room to figure it out. Do nothing, except maybe shop at Whole Foods and drive EVs.
Keep in mind, only a short time ago,
was the one that these same liberals expected to solve these problems!
