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    21 days ago

    Misinforming while talking about misinformation. Par for course around these parts.

    No casualties from 180 Iran rockets for mainly 2 reason:

    1. Israel is used to the bellicose nature of all their murderous neighbors, so they have a strong culture of bomb shelters. 10 million Israel civilians were on bomb shelter alert that day.

    2. Israel had help from allies to defend from Iran’s rockets.

    The US is on record as having shot down rockets that Israel couldn’t deal with. This is why we have our warships nearby, to protect civilians. And also why we are sending more anti-missile tech. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyv0ne41pzo

    And it is said that Jordan used their tech to shoot down some Iranian rockets to help protect Israel’s civilians when they saw the trajectory of the rockets. This wouldn’t be a first for Jordan, they had to get involved in April against another Iranian attack https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/17/middleeast/jordan-walks-a-tightrope-after-downing-iranian-drones-and-missiles/index.html

    Also, perhaps I missed it, but I did not catch in your comment any relief that Israel civilians were spared horrors thanks to the quick actions of anti-missile efforts. Somebody might mistake your rhetoric for that of the Hamas-indoctrinated fucktards around these parts that speak in Hamas talking points and celebrate terrorism and genocide when the target is Israel.

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      21 days ago

      Those warships could’ve been used for intercepting Israeli missiles that could have saved many more civilians life, more than 40k. But those warships are not for civilian safety instead they are for ensuring safety of a regime while they commit genocide.

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        21 days ago

        I’m sorry, but you don’t understand how any of this works.

        The terrorist Hamas organization is embedded in Gaza as the ruling authority. The only way to pry them out is to have fighting where they hide, which is in civilian buildings in Gaza. Hamas does that on purpose, so that the only way to fight them is to bomb Gaza buildings like hospitals. Hamas is trying to get as many of their own people in Gaza killed as possible, so people like you watch their tiktok propaganda and repeat their talking points. There were 4 million people in Gaza at the start of the conflict, and by Hamas’ own numbers, there have been about 1% total deaths including Hamas’ own warriors. In the US, we lost nearly that many people to Trump’s mismanagement of Covid-19.

        Iran is bombing Israel with ballistic missiles. They did not issue warnings to civilians like Israel does, or use bombs of limited power like Israel does, or answer to the Western alliance like Israel does.

        I know this doesn’t match your propaganda worldview, but the US is trying to reduce damage and prevent war in the region. What you call a “genocide” against Hamas-controlled territory is the tip of the iceberg of the damage to civilians that could spread if we let Iran and Israel go at each other with full-scale war, while Hamas continues to attempt to exterminate every Israeli on the planet.

        The reason my elected officials like Biden don’t listen to your strategy, is that your strategy is paper thin and has no merit. They are busy trying to solve complex multi-actor problems with very serious repercussions, not consuming Hamas propaganda on tiktok.

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          21 days ago
          • From your point, Hamas is hiding in all buildings that’s why Israel bombed several cities that killed thousands of civilians. (which is a war crime - you are not allowed to bomb buildings in which hostages/civilians are there)
          • Again propaganda, Iran retaliated for the second time after Israel’s invasion of Lebanon. Don’t use the words of war accelerationists like “Iran is bombing”, Israeli military facilities were bombed and Iran’s operation is done. (Not like israel, who creates safe-zones in Gaza then they bomb the civilians)
          • Elected president Biden is trying to accelerate the conflict by sending Israel more armaments and funds which will result in more civilian deaths. It will not in anyway help end conflict with Iran.
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            20 days ago

            Bullet point 1 is untrue. You have to minimize civilian casualties, but bombing an actual legit target means collateral is not considered a war crime. The civilians still get bombed though.

            Bullet point 2 is retaliation on retaliation on retaliation on retaliation ad infinitum… there is no good guy here.

            Bullet point 3 seems to ignore Russia and Iran are arming the other side. Just like it ignores that a lot of Israelis in the north were under constant shelling from southern Libanon (Hezbollah)… at some point there would be a response.