• Darukhnarn@feddit.org
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    2 months ago

    That is not what I’m saying. The greater Jerusalem area has been in conflict for millennia. It’s shrouded in a different veil over time, but the core conflict remains over control of the Middle East, specifically access to the Mediterranean and control of the trading routes between Africa, Asia and Europe. Over the years this has become entangled with religious fanatische, but at its core, it’s the same conflict that’s been going on since people first settled the region.

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      2 months ago

      Stop overgeneralizing things. No one concerned about the genocide in Gaza draws connections to the fucking Crusades.

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        2 months ago

        Historical continuances aren’t your thing aren’t they? History is nothing but connection and ideas. To give you some perspective:

        Current German ownership disputes between the church and the government can be traced back to inheritance disputes that arose because of the fall of the Roman Empire.

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          2 months ago

          Other places having different historical contexts that spills into different regions aren’t your thing, are they? (spare me your smug tone, please)

          The whole idea of Zionism arose from problems jewish europeans had in the 20th century. The “jewish question” arose in Europe, pretty much unconcerned of how long Jerusalem was war-torn. (Unless you want to go so far back that historical chaos-theory is in full swing and you can’t make any concrete statements about causal interactions, like "roman ci-il law led directly to russian progroms in the 19th century.)

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            2 months ago

            Seriously: why are you under the impression my initial comment or the message were only about Zionism?

            BTW, Zionism as we know it today was coined in the 19th century by Theodor Herzl. Maybe you should open up a book for once instead of repeating easy summaries.

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              2 months ago

              The OP was about the current conflict, which is a result of Zionism.

              I know about Herzl and mistyped. I can admit to an error. Can you be less smug?

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                2 months ago

                You have to explain to me how you took Zionism from the meme. From what I can gather it’s about the general conflict in the holy land.

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                  2 months ago

                  The current conflict is based on Zionism. Claiming that this conflict is a conyinuation of “1000 years” is Zionist propaganda.

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                    2 months ago

                    The current conflict isn’t based in Zionism. It’s a convenient tool, sure but it’s not the root. The crusades also weren’t based in Christian fundamentalism.

                    Religion is a tool to oppress and manipulate masses, but it’s not the driving factor in political rational. Just look at evangelical megachirch preachers in the U.S., religion is just a tool to them to gain more wealth.

                    The underlying issue is a struggle for power and control over a regions geostrategical resources. Has always been and will always be.