The Anti-Fascist Action were backed by the German Communist Party.
The Iron Front were set up by SocDems as an anti-communist alternative to AntiFa.
Because as we all know, the only way to fight disease is to oppose medicine and promote a homeopathic snake oil instead.
excuse me its not against communism its just against redfash tankies
the social democrats dident want authoritarianism so made agroup to fight the fascists by *opens history book* teaming up with the fascists to kill the communists, then all getting shot by the fascists once the way was cleared for them
so there, tankie
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What’s that CCP bot? Putin-splaining to me? I have ways of dealing with tankies like you…
*opens wikipedia dot org* *copy/pastes the link*
citation cited
[5] The Black Book of Communism
[6] Conquest Orwellchipelago by MI6 Fictionitsyn
[7] pgs.14, 88 from The Diary of Lt. General Emigre Killchildovich, compiled by Assistant Intelligence Chief of NATO Adolf Franz-Gehlen von Whitewashdeleted by creator
I mean if there are so many wikipedia articles about it…
and when you point out how bad wikipedia is they’ll act like you kicked their dog it’s kinda funny, if not for the fact that they refuse to onboard any new information
It’s the libertarian encyclopedia
i farmed a whole bunch of downvotes in the thread about AI attacks against wikipedia, someone yelled at me that I wouldnt know what NATO is without wikipedia, and that’s just a hilarious self tell tbh
Putin-splaining
Working Class History while good on a lot of things, are absolute dog shit on anything related to the USSR. I forget if they’re Trots or what.
Anarchists, they get mad each year on the anniversary of Trotsky defeating the Kronstadt counter revolutionaries
Ah, gotcha.
I have a feeling they live in a NATO or MNNA country and consider themselves anarchists.
Forgive them Father for they are suckdems
when nazis come for communists Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!!
when nazis come for me Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck.
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What was the black flag symbolic of?
Anarchism
My guess is anarchism.
DOWN WITH MONARCHY!
DOWN WITH NAZIS!!
DOWN WITH COMMUNISTS!!!
capitalism is ok. we’re socialists btw
Every twentieth post of Working Class History is just anti communism. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were Trots.
funnily enough i actually had the thought that they might be trots earlier today and went looking for evidence of such
didn’t find anything explicit but i didn’t get too deep into looking
Other posters here said they were Western anarchists, which might be the case.
that tracks. out of curiosity i went through and peeked at the articles that come up when you search for lenin, then did the same for stalin.
https://stories.workingclasshistory.com/tag/8568/joseph-stalin
i have also seen them running content made with (alleged) chinese migrant workers, which could of course go either way. but given their apparent leanings…
Alternative to Roterfront, but yes.
As a reaction to the Harzburg Front and the »March of 100,000«, the Reichsbanner, SPD, General German Trade Union Confederation (ADGB), General Employees’ Association (Afa-Bund) and workers’ gymnastics and Sportbund (ATSB) formed the “Iron Front” on December 16, 1931. Her symbol was three from top right to arrows pointing to the lower left, each shattering a crown, a swastika, and a hammer and sickle. The Iron Front therefore also saw itself as an anti-communist organization.
There was no actual membership. Rather, the Iron Front represented an attempt to to initiate a movement of pro-republic forces. Today they would probably be more democratic as a concerted action identify organizations against extremism
During the first months of its existence, the Iron Front was popularized through large-scale events. There were so-called “preparation weeks” in which activists could write their names in “iron books.” Trade unionists formed “hammer groups” in order to be able to act militantly in an emergency. In their propaganda appeared the Iron Front as a decisive force to protect the republic. In fact, their activities focused on publicly effective self-portrayals.
Meanwhile, the Nazis were gaining ground. Hitler wanted on April 10, 1932 in the election to the Reich President against Paul von Hindenburg and Ernst Thälmann, but he was still stateless. The German The Braunschweig government procured him citizenship by appointing him to the government council on February 25, 1932 in Berlin - a post that Hitler, incidentally, never took up. However, the election to the Reich President was decided by supported by the SPD, German nationalist Paul von Hindenburg for himself.
The Iron Front predates Antifa, and Antifa was very much Communist led, it was an attempt at a united front. The SPD leadership and union leadership REFUSED to join. We cannot know for sure the membership makeup because Antifa insisted upon no membership cards, as this was practical self-defense, NOT a political militia or armed wing. Which probably saved a lot of lives in the short term.
As an example, Thälmann’s reply to whether the anti-fascist Action about a “communist party shop” is reproduced: “It is a non-partisan collecting tank for all workers who are willing to fight ruthlessly against fascism. It is not an organization, but a mass movement. She is the stream into which all the fighting forces flow which is really the struggle, the mass attack against the current government, which is the immediate erection of the fascist To operate a dictatorship, to want to implement it. The leadership of the special unity committees in the factories, in the streets the stamp points etc., must of course be in the hands of the workers themselves willing to fight. ”
Iron Front was utterly useless
During the first months of its existence, the Iron Front was popularized through large-scale events. There were so-called “preparation weeks” in which activists could write their names in “iron books.” Trade unionists formed “hammer groups” in order to be able to act militantly in an emergency. In their propaganda appeared the Iron Front as a decisive force to protect the republic. In fact, their activities focused on publicly effective self-portrayals.
Could you link what you’re quoting from (or at least name the source)?
FUCK YEAH!!! Wayback machine is working and the page was saved a bunch of times
https://web.archive.org/web/20200716154607/http://antifaeu.blogsport.de/images/80J_AA_web.pdf
Here is a link to a still working site with it uploaded https://www.rosalux.de/fileadmin/ls_ni/dokumente/publikationen/80_Jahre_Antifaschistische_Aktion_-_Broschüre.pdf
Bernd Langer wrote a bunch of books on antifa history since the 80s. We should definitely put his stuff (including this) in the Hexbear reading archives or whatever we call the library for the reading club
So I cannot for the life of me find the link, the book is German and I translated sections years ago. I managed to find this dead-link if anyone can help http://antifaeu.blogsport.de/images/80J_AA_web.pdf
Wayback machine is down this week because of fears of an attack on the site so I can’t use that currently. May be a download on my old computer
Remind me, what are the three arrows again? 🤔
Fascism, monarchism and communism iirc.
I hate fascism so much that I hate anti-fascists! I’m an anti-anti-fascist!
You can either reject private property, or you can be a fascist. There are no other options and this makes succdems extremely mad.
Fascism, monarchism and communism iirc.
Buy our anti-fascist pins to fight fascism
Idk I’ve been reliably informed by a fairly inteligent anarchist I know that the Three Arrows was used before the SocDems got ahold of it, and that the third arrow originally meant capitalism not communism. He had like, evidence but I didnt save it. So personally I dont have the problem with the three arrows most people have. Its not like most people that use it are using it with that intention anyway.
I’ll wait on that evidence.
This is a crap article, it completely glosses over 100% historical usage of 3 arrows as anticommunist symbol after the original one by SPD, and i find it highly suspicious that Polish site missed its usage as the logo of militant faction of PPS, party very much anticommunist and analogue to SPD.
Hate to say it but the succdems kind of cooked with the three arrows logo. It looks cool.
Cool logos aren’t that difficult
There’s a portuguese language version of this twitter account that’s also very anarchisty
which is the arrow one that some anarchistics use? i think it has three arrows as well but it’s black and white
I cannot think of any anarchist symbol with three arrows but I can think of the Chaos Star, sometimes also known as the Chaos Wheel, Chaos Arrows or Eight of Wands. It symbolises order, weirdly enough.