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  • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    1 year ago

    I want you to ask some of the jews that were liberated from death camps whether they think socialism was “not much better than fascism”.

    You’re calling people like Jeremy Corbyn a monster, who regularly defends the ussr, correctly so. That’s how far off the deep end you people are in terms of understanding of this topic.

    Thankfully Eastern Europe, having lived through the horrors of Stalin’s regime, are better at seeing through that bullshit.

    I am originally FROM eastern europe(Czech) and this is just false. You are talking to people born in the 80s and 90s, brought up on an education system designed with a hefty quantity of anticommunism. You are not talking to people that actually lived under socialism at an age where they can remember any of it.

    We have data to back this up anyway:

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2010/04/28/hungary-better-off-under-communism/

    A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same. In no other Central or Eastern European country surveyed did so many believe that economic life is worse now than during the communist era. This is the result of almost universal displeasure with the economy. Fully 94% describe the country’s economy as bad, the highest level of economic discontent in the hard hit region of Central and Eastern Europe. Just 46% of Hungarians approve of their country’s switch from a state-controlled economy to a market economy; 42% disapprove of the move away from communism. The public is even more negative toward Hungary’s integration into Europe; 71% say their country has been weakened by the process.

    http://www.balkanalysis.com/romania/2011/12/27/in-romania-opinion-polls-show-nostalgia-for-communism/

    The most incredible result was registered in a July 2010 IRES (Romanian Institute for Evaluation and Strategy) poll, according to which 41% of the respondents would have voted for Ceausescu, had he run for the position of president. And 63% of the survey participants said their life was better during communism, while only 23% attested that their life was worse then. Some 68% declared that communism was a good idea, just one that had been poorly applied.

    https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html

    Glorification of the German Democratic Republic is on the rise two decades after the Berlin Wall fell. Young people and the better off are among those rebuffing criticism of East Germany as an “illegitimate state.” In a new poll, more than half of former eastern Germans defend the GDR.

    http://praguemonitor.com/2011/11/21/pol

    Roughly 28 percent of Czechs say they were better off under the Communist regime, according to a poll conducted by the polling institute SC&C and released Sunday.

    http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/for-simon-poll-serbians-unsure-who-runs-their-country

    A poll shows that as many as 81 per cent of Serbians believe they lived best in the former Yugoslavia -”during the time of socialism”.

    https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Poll-Most-Russians-Prefer-Return-of-Soviet-Union-and-Socialism-20160420-0051.html

    The majority of Russians polled in a 2016 study said they would prefer living under the old Soviet Union and would like to see the socialist system and the Soviet state restored.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/166538/former-soviet-countries-harm-breakup.aspx

    Reflecting back on the breakup of the Soviet Union that happened 22 years ago next week, residents in seven out of 11 countries that were part of the union are more likely to believe its collapse harmed their countries than benefited them. Only Azerbaijanis, Kazakhstanis, and Turkmens are more likely to see benefit than harm from the breakup. Georgians are divided.

    You are objectively and measurably wrong. You are repeating repetitive garbage that you have seen moronic far right americans on reddit who have their brains riddled with the legacy of two red-scares repeat over and over again. Which you too repeat as fact despite it being simply not true.

    But of course you’ll completely ignore all of this absolutely factual information and still repeat garbage again next time because you people don’t care about reality, you invent your own. When information that should make you self-crit and reevaluate your world view is presented to you the reactionary attitude you hold causes you to discard it.

    • FluffyPotato@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      1 year ago

      Me and my whole family is from and currently in Eastern Europe you numbskull. As a bonus my mom’s side of the family is originally from the karelia region where they escaped the soviet occupation once already. I grew up with horror stories from my parents and grandparents about the soviet regime. Also my extended family is about 10% lighter thanks to that regime. And anyone defending that bloody dictator’s regime is a monster, yea.

      It’s 4 am so I’m not gonna go over the whole wall of surveys with a comb but here’s my thoughts out em: I’m not surprised about the poll for Serbs, they do seem to love their genocide. As far as the 2 polls that says life was better under the USSR I guess their country must have really gone to shit now.

      Considering the USSR did some considerable ethnic cleansing with their death camps in siberia and replacing the local population with their own and the breakup itself causing a lot of economic issues I can entirely believe that those countries consider the breakup itself to be harmful. Also note that the last poll leaves out 4 countries that definitely would consider the breakup to be good which is very weird. If you wanted a poll that said the breakup of the USSR was harmful you definitely want to leave out the Baltics.

      • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13·
        1 year ago

        Me and my whole family is from and currently in Eastern Europe you numbskull.

        Then you should know from talking to literally any elders that you’re talking shit.

        Karelia

        Lmao so you’re a Finn that’s proud of having fought on the nazi side of ww2 then and are unhappy with the soviets over it. Cool.

        Considering the USSR did some considerable ethnic cleansing with their death camps in siberia

        This is absolute nonsense. You are a historical revisionist who invents reality to suit themselves. 90% of people who entered soviet work camps left them alive perfectly well, calling them death camps is absolutely absurd. Frankly I’m not going to bother responding to you any further because this just continues to give you opportunities to spew literal actual bollocks into the thread.

        • FluffyPotato@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          1 year ago

          Estonian actually, Karelia is were my mom’s parents escaped from to get away from the soviet occupation but I don’t fault the Finns for using help from the nazies to ward off a soviet occupation, considering the nazies weren’t going to occupy Finland it was a lesser of 2 evils.

          As I mentioned: the tales of soviet cruelties come from my parents and grandparents. Unfortunately my great grandparents never came back from the soviet death camps and there are no records of where they were taken which is a common thing for people losing family to those camps, soviet record keeping for those was shit. I’m lucky to know this much, most people just disappeared with no records at all. I guess they learned their lesson from the nuremberg trials and just destroyed their records.

          Also feel free not to engage, I’m not too interested in some kid from the UK who fell for tankie bullshit and wasn’t impacted by the soviet regime but I do love to argue.

          • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            1 year ago

            I don’t fault the Finns for using help from the nazies

            Stopped reading. Fuck off nazi. Not only did Finland take part in the holocaust by exterminating the Roma living in Finland (or forcing them to fight in the nazi suicide squads), but Estonia also handed over Jews to the Gestapo.

            If anti-communists could stop admitting that they admire the nazis within 2 or 3 comments of starting their anti-communism you might actually be dangerous and effective at spreading your bullshit but you can never fucking help yourselves.

            • FluffyPotato@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              1 year ago

              Ah yes, perfectly ok to defend the soviets committing a genocide, but the moment a country accepts help from nazies against soviet genocide they become nazies. Weird it doesn’t bother you that soviets allied with the nazies and split Europe amongst one another in their treaty. Obviously nazies are fucking despicable but so are soviets and both did genocides. Yea, you can go fuck yourself too red fashist.

              • suction@lemmy.worldEnglish
                22·
                1 year ago

                Dude, you’re arguing with a fascist-loving teenager. Talk about wasting time.

                • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  22·
                  1 year ago

                  teenager

                  I’m late thirties actually.

                  fascist-loving

                  I’m begging you to ask some of the surviving jews that were freed from nazi death camps whether they think socialism is the same thing as fascism. They might kick your teeth out though.

              • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.worldEnglish
                13·
                1 year ago

                No mate because, as I pointed out, they weren’t fucking death camps and you’re an idiot. You can not cite a single academic source saying that, because none exist.

                This has now devolved into you making up genocides that the soviets did not perform in order to justify your support for the nazi genocide of roma performed by finland. Screaming “red fashist” at the end doesn’t help.

                I’m on the side of objectively good people like Che, Nelson Mandela and Albert Einstein. You’re on the side of Hitler and Mengele you absolute tool.

                I didn’t even make you take the position of defending the nazis, you CHOSE to take this position without prompting.

                • FluffyPotato@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  12·
                  1 year ago

                  You saying they are not does not make it so. Soviets were smarter than nazies and didn’t keep records as I said so the only numbers are estimated but like the lowest death count you can find is 1.5 miljon but the highest I can find is 8 million. But since most sources agree: prisoners close to death were released and they either died on the way somewhere else or at their destination. The total guesstimates of the total population at their death camps ranges from 14 to 25 million. This also doesn’t count the people deported to random villages in Siberia, never to be seen again or the famines they caused by either intentionally or by ridiculous incompetence.

                  Also note I was defending the Finns not nazies. You can imagine how bad the soviet regime was if nazies seem like a good alternative.

                  Sure, you’re the perfect angel, defending soviet genocides and other atrocities.

                  • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                    1 year ago

                    You can imagine how bad the soviet regime was if nazies seem like a good alternative.

                    I wonder if any of the jews that were freed by the soviets (all of them) would agree. Nah.

                    The total guesstimates of the total population at their death camps ranges from 14 to 25 million.

                    Lmao you’re pulling figures from the black book of communism now which is widely regarded as a joke. Fucking hilarious.

                    I also genuinely do not give a fuck about any nazis they killed. Which you are definitely including in your camp deaths as a bad thing. You are literally going to bat for nazis that absolutely deserved execution.

        • Vikthor@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          Lmao so you’re a Finn that’s proud of having fought on the nazi side of ww2 then and are unhappy with the soviets over it. Cool.

          Lmao you are forgetting who actually attacked whom and nothing said in this thread suggests Finns are proud of having to fight with the nazis.

          90% of people who entered soviet work camps left them alive perfectly well

          Decimation was considered a harsh punishment even by the standards of the ancient Rome and was abolished. The fact that you use 90% survival rate to defend the ussr just shows how delusional you bolshevik tankies are.

          • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            1 year ago

            Decimation was considered a harsh punishment even by the standards of the ancient Rome and was abolished. The fact that you use 90% survival rate to defend the ussr just shows how delusional you bolshevik tankies are.

            Mate 90% survival rates pre penicillin are incredibly common, let alone in camp prisons as a result of proper prisons overflowing due to world war 2 conditions on top of food problems. Read a book. It wasn’t until 1953 that these rates came down to standards that you’d expect when new industrial processes made penicillin widespread in the region. This stuff is extremely basic and is in practically every single book on the topic I shouldn’t have to explain it to people but none of you actually read anything.

    • FluffyPotato@lemmy.worldEnglish
      01·
      1 year ago

      Oh and by originally from do you mean the American originally from where your great great great grandfather was from there but you never been in said country or barely know anything about it? Or do you mean actually from the Czech republic?