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    The gain of function research on the same wild virus being done in conjunction with Germany?

    Do you know any of the actual details of the project, where they were collecting wild bats infected with the proto version of Covid and were splitting up different components of the research to different labs?

    The Wuhan group were researching the viral backbone and Germany the viral antigens.

    The same sort of collaboration done on many other potentially concerning natural vector diseases.

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        You mean I’ve actually read the scientific data and evidence going back years before the pandemic? The research they were doing there and in Germany was well known and openly available. Published papers and all.

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          You haven’t read anything that proves COVID-19 wasn’t a lab leak, and everything you’ve read filtered through the people responsible. But you are invested in convincing me it wasn’t.

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            How do you think scientific publications work?

            They don’t go through the high council of evil science-lords first.

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              Now I want to be invited to an evil science-lord convention.

              Bonus points if it is held in an underground volcanic lair.

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              Have you seen any scientific publications posted to these comments that prove the pandimic didn’t result from a lab leak? I haven’t.

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                What possible evidence would there be to “prove” this negative? Maybe if we happened to find the exact source animal to test? Since that is unlikely, all we have to go is the genome of the virus compared to similar viruses in the wild and similar viruses in published research. And that wouldn’t be proof enough for you.

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                  You don’t need to prove or disprove a negative. You simply must allow for it to be a possibility unless evidence comes forth which proves that the doubts are unfounded. For instance, if patient zero was found and they had no contact with the lab, if a wild source of COVID-19 with the same genetic structure was found, or if it was proven than none of the samples in the lab could be the source of the infection.

                  The problem here is that I opened up the possibility by asking the question, and hateful, partial, non-scientific minds decided to dogpile me for threatening their beliefs and faith in authority.

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                  My own what? I am posting my own doubts about the story. Do I need evidence to distrust two governments with a history of experimenting on their populations?

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            The very scientist who first suggested that Covid was man-made changed his mind after doing further research and discovering that the components he thought were man-made were actually found in other wild Sars viruses.

            You’re the one who refuses to listen to actual evidence beyond the initial claims you first heard.

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          I’ve yet to be given one solid reason to question my questioning of the official narrative. The other guy only posted character attacks and appeals to questionable authorities.

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            Do you just… like… look in a mirror, then post random comments attacking people for your own failings or something? Cause that’s what seems to be happening.

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              Where did you see me attack anybody? You should be able to quote me. What seems to be happening from my perspective is a bunch of people with poor reading comprehension or no integrity attacking me for doubting the official narrative.