It’s lemmygrad, we’re the spectre. I’d bet at least half of the other instances out there block us, there’s only like 300 dedicated users on this instance, and they still can’t stop complaining about lemmygrad/tankies

  • protist@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Sure, this instance defines itself as pro-Marxism/pro-socialism, and there is a serious conversation to be had about the pros and cons of different systems of economy. I struggle to understand, however, why people on this instance are so pro-Russia today, where Russia now is so blatantly a capitalist kleptocracy. This undermines any perception that people on this instance are approaching this in good faith, and gives the impression lemmygrad is the product of Russian troll farms.

    As to why this small instance gathers so much attention within Lemmy, it keeps showing up in my “All” feed, that probably has something to do with it 👾

    • ☭CommieWolf☆@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      We are not “Pro-Russia”, this is a bad faith label that is used to smear us. We SUPPORT Russia in the current conflict against Nato and the west. Which is what any principled anti-imperialist would do.

      • curryandbeans@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        So just to wrap my head around this, the anti-imperialists are the ones who have invaded a sovereign country twice in 8 years?

        • ☭CommieWolf☆@lemmygrad.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 year ago

          The anti imperialists are the ones preventing the expansion of the organization that attacked Iraq, took part in several conflicts in former Yugoslavia, invaded Afghanistan, attacked Iraq again and then Libya.

          All while expanding to 15 countries in the last 30 years. That is the imperialism we are opposing.

          • curryandbeans@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 year ago

            So the anti-imperialists are the ones who invaded twice and annexed Chechnya, rolled tanks into Georgia, invaded Luhansk, Donetsk and Crimea in a blatant land grab, levelled Syrian cities (which is ongoing btw) and used chemical weapons on civilians, aggressively pursued Russian interests in Mali, Libya and Sudan with the Wagner group, and started a full scale invasion of Ukraine which is ongoing… and they’re the good guys?

            It’s wild that you can look at them and say yeah, russia are the good guys in this whole thing lol. There’s a reason why countries want to be in NATO in 2023 and that reason is Russia.

            • ☭CommieWolf☆@lemmygrad.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 year ago

              You did not just compare Russia preventing a Jihadist breakaway state from forming in their country to the US destroying Iraq for made up reasons and creating the catalyst for all modern Islamist terrorism, Jesus fucking Christ.

                • taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  More ahistorical nonsense.

                  They asked the Soviets to help them…kinda like how the people of the Donbass also asked Russia to help them.

                  • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    And libs are fuming about it all the same. Almost like their dedication to objectivity and human rights is a lie and they just stan US empire no matter what.

          • curryandbeans@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            Aight I googled it because learning is fun

            • a policy of extending a country’s power and influence through colonization, use of military force, or other means*

            Sounds like it fits mate

            • ☭CommieWolf☆@lemmygrad.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              Lmao, you probably think the soviets pushing into Nazi Germany on the eastern front is Russian “imperialism” too, since a military entered a foreign country. Read a book.

              • curryandbeans@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 year ago

                Not at all dude. Russia defended its land in an existential war against a fascism in way not dissimilar to what Ukraine is doing right now. I suppose the question is why does Russia 41-45 have the right to defend their sovereignty while Ukraine 2014-present does not? Don’t forget that the Soviets benefitted massively from US and British arms and equipment much like Ukraine today.