• ivn
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    3 个月前

    Breach of trust and owned by a for profit company.

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      3 个月前

      Breach of trust

      By a different company. Owners changed in 2017.

      owned by a for profit company

      Which makes a privacy-oriented search engine. Seems like they have a pretty good track record.

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        And they started using ghostery to show their own ads in 2018.

        Their search engine was discontinued in 2020.

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          And they started using ghostery to show their own ads in 2018.

          And they stopped after it was criticised. Do you just not use any product that has ever been bad for any amount of time?

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            No need to get defensive. I do use bad products, but it’s important to try to find the least bad and avoid rewarding bad actors.

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              No need to get defensive

              Who’s defensive…?

              I do use bad products

              Umm… Good for you! (?) Not sure why you decided to share that, though.

              but it’s important to try to find the least bad and avoid rewarding bad actors.

              I agree! How about rewarding a redemption arc, where a bad actor changes management and becomes a “good actor”? (that was the original question, btw)

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                Well that was a weird rhetorical question.

                Redemption arcs are for people, not for companies. And even them, how would I know they’ve become a good actor? It’s really hard to be sure that a software is not doing something bad. Trust in software should be really, really hard to acquire.

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                  Redemption arcs are for people, not for companies

                  So, how are you browsing the Internet?

                  Can’t use Chromium (Google), can’t use Safari (Apple).

                  Can’t use Mozilla after their “bad actor” behaviour with telemetry and Pocket integration (not to mention the fact that they’re literally on Google’s payroll). Can’t use Servo (originally made by Mozilla), can’t use Ladybird (main dev is a fascist).

                  Are you posting this through telepathic transmission, or are you just a hypocrite?

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                    No, as I said I do use some bad software but I try to find the least worst.