• DessertStorms
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    010 months ago

    I draw the line at threatening or harming people.

    Except these bans are harming people.
    Anyone dictating what others can or cannot wear is harming people.

    All this “enlightened” centrism bullshit does is enable oppressors.

    • Square Singer
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      1010 months ago

      The guy you answered was argueing the opposite of what you understood. He said, there should be no prohibition of practices unless they harm people.

    • @ChrisLicht@lemm.ee
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      710 months ago

      I agree, but there is a somewhat thorny question here: Where does the dictation start?

      Many of these students and their families are being dictated to by Sunni wahabbist imams trained and funded by Saudi oil money, and they actually come from cultures and religious traditions that didn’t give a shit about the abaya in the ‘60s and ‘70s.

      • @Syndic@feddit.de
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        210 months ago

        Well how about they tackle the foreign financial support of such extremist religious subgroups then? How about they provide more public information about the personal rights of women to choose themself what they wear? How about providing better infrastructure with properly trained social workers to better help such women to flee from such oppressive households?

        Any of these examples would be several times better at actually improving the lives of such women. Definitely more than them being forced to not wear something. Women who are forced to wear such stuff should be helped to understand that it isn’t right for them to be forced to wear something they don’t want. Guess what certainly doesn’t help in that task, the state also dictating what they can’t wear.

    • @frostbiker@lemmy.ca
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      310 months ago

      I draw the line at threatening or harming people

      Except these bans are harming people

      Sorry for not being clear in my statement. I mean harming as in: beheading, stoning, bombing, shooting, etc. Not as in hurting their feelings.

      But we agree: nobody should impose on other people what they can or cannot wear, whether it is religious symbols or pirate regalia.

      All this “enlightened” centrism bullshit does is enable oppressors

      Could you please elaborate?