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  • This is a good argument for large graze-fed animals on semi-arid land. It would allow for maximizing calorie extraction per square meter.

    But beyond that the paper doesn’t really hold up. They’re using a few tricks to prop it up:

    • Comparing protein of wheat to beef instead of calories, or instead of a more protein-dense plant.
    • They are basing their numbers only on Australian land that works for ungulate grazing but would require terraforming to be usable for planting. There are other areas like this (grazing goats in parts of Mexico significantly reduces emissions compared to crop irrigation and growing), but in the US the vast majority of beef is grain fed.
    • The paper acknowledges that grain-finishing alters their numbers, but doesn’t actually tell us how much. The paper is very skimpy on data to begin with, and seems to be intentionally avoiding it when it would hurt the thesis.
    • A lot of the heavy lifting is done by the mouse plagues. Again, this is Australia-specific. Any grain fed animal farming still poisons mice to keep them out of the feed. If you take the mouse plagues out of the equation it seems like the numbers would not be persuasive, but again their math isn’t laid out well enough to figure it out.

    The paper doesn’t really advertise that the conclusion is Australia-specific, which makes it easy for those in other regions to pick it without reading it. It’s a good conclusion in specific circumstances, but for any grain fed animals it’s intentionally misleading.







  • I checked out their feed since I figured I must have missed a big burst of bad content, but I don’t see anything misandrist. I see a few posts critical of certain men, but even that’s the minority of content.

    Even going through comments I see only a healthy amount of misandry. I don’t see any organizing of violence against all men, or even normalizing of it.

    If you’re feeling triggered by the things you see in a space meant for an oppressed class to vent then I think you’re just too sensitive.