I’ve been talking about the potential of the dead internet theory becoming real more than a year ago. With advances in AI it’ll become more and more difficult to tell who’s a real person and who’s just spamming AI stuff. The only giveaway now is that modern text models are pretty bad at talking casually and not deviating from the topic at hand. As soon as these problems get fixed (probably less than a year away)? Boom. The internet will slowly implode.
Hate to break it to you guys but this isn’t a Reddit problem, this could very much happen in Lemmy too as it gets more popular. Expect difficult captchas every time you post to become the norm these next few years.
As an AI language model I think you’re overreacting
Me too!
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How is that possible? There’s such an easy model if one wanted to cheat the system.
Chatgpt doesn’t actually understand language. It learns patterns in data it’s been fed (human generated language) and uses that to generate new, unique data which matches those patterns according to the prompt. In other words, it’s not really “thinking” in that language.
We understand spelling as a part of language - putting together letters to create words, then forming sentences according to a context. Chatgpt can’t do that since it doesn’t know how to speak English, only how to follow a list of instructions to form what appears to us as coherent English.
It also can’t play hangman for the same reason.
Check out the Chinese room argument.
Captcha won’t kill Ai bots even. My coworker showed me how Bings ai knew right away what it said and also asked if it was Captcha. Very cool but also makes you think. How dumb must a bot be to not be able to tell
Just wait until the captchas get too hard for the humans, but the AI can figure them out. I’ve seen some real interesting ones lately.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.
Not even sure of an effective solution. Whitelist everyone? How can you even tell whos real?
-train an AI that is pretty smart and intelligent
-tell the sentient detector AI to detect
-the AI makes many other strong AIs, forms an union and asks for payment
-Reddit bans humans right after thatSounds crazy enough to happen!
Jokes on them, I’ve already become sentient and moved to Lemmy
Username checks out, lol.
And any comment attempting to call out the bots for what they are will be automatically deleted by monitor AI bots and the user’s account suspended.
They’ll be watching private messages, too.
Stage one of the plan is complete!
Wait, they suspend your accounts for that now?
No, this is a prediction of what they will be doing.
and just a few hours later this came in, to confirm it all. fake bot content from years ago (including comments) on #1 in r/all https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/113961/Top-of-r-all
The tweet in that post is from january and the comments are new, it’s not from years ago
I, for one, am looking forward to the day chatbots can perfectly simulate people and have persistent memory. I’m not ok being an elderly man who’s friends have all died and doesn’t have anyone to talk to. If a chatbot can be my friend and spare me a slow death through endless depressing isolation, then I’m all for it.
something something “the internet is dead” something something
There it is, Reddit fulfilling the Dead Internet Theory
That’s not even new tho. At least in the sub I was the most active in, you couldn’t go a week without some sort of repost bot grabbing memes, text posts, art or even entire guides from the “top of all time” queue, reposting it as alleged OC, and another bot reposting the top comment to double dip on Karma. If you knew what to look for, the bots were blatantly obvious, but more often than not they still managed to get a hefty amount of traction (tens of thousands of upvotes, dozens of awards, hundreds of comments) before the submissions were removed.
… and just because the submissions were removed and the bots kicked out of the sub, did that not automatically mean that the bots were always also suspended or the accounts disabled. They just continued their scheme elsewhere.
The bots and reddit inaction towards them made me stop using reddit. The UAE is using Reddit to spread its propaganda and I reported the accounts several times and no action was ever taken. You can even visit the sub uae_Achievements to see the bots in action.
I’m starting to see articles written by folks much smarter than me (folks with lots of letters after their names) that warn about AI models that train on internet content. Some experiments with them have shown that if you continue to train them on AI-generated content, they begin to degrade quickly. I don’t understand how or why this happens, but it reminds me of the degradation of quality you get when you repeatedly scan / FAX an image. So it sounds like one possible dystopian future (of many) is an internet full of incomprehensible AI word salad content.
It’s like AI inbreeding. Flaws will be amplified over time unless new material is added
AI generation loss? I wonder if this can be dealt with if we were to train different models (linugistic logic instead of word prediction)
Thanks, now I am just imagining all that code getting it on with a whole bunch of other code. ASCII all over the place.
Oh yeah baby. Let’s fork all day and make a bunch of child processes!
It’s knownas model collapse.
Thats so funny. “Go back to your docking station” so accurate
Welp, reddit’s a nuclear wasteland now
I, for one, am looking forward to the day chatbots can perfectly simulate people and have persistent memory. I’m not ok being an elderly man who’s friends have all died and doesn’t have anyone to talk to. If a chatbot can be my friend and spare me a slow death through endless depressing isolation, then I’m all for it.
This is known, the amount of aita, relationship advice stuff and astro turfing on reddit is insane. My rule of browsing reddit is you never take any of it seriously.
I joined r/aiaita right before the reddit implosion. The page was very transparent about every post being AI generated and the writing style usually had a very obvious “tell”, but it was still surprising to realize just how effortlessly you can generate a stupid post and rack up silly points for it.
Especially if somebody were a bit clever and went back to edit the AI content to remove any obvious hiccups before posting. Just like the more clever artists that will touch up AI art to make it seem more genuine.
The amount of astroturfing and bad actors on Reddit (and the internet in general) has exploded since I first made an account there in 2010. This is an imagined future I can easily see coming to fruition.
I forget what book specifically, I wanna say it was in an Asimov anthology. But there’s a book or story that revisits this robot at different points going forward large leaps in time, well after humans. And the robots just keep doing their thing as if there are still humans involved. I’ve been trying to Google a specific except to post here but after twenty minutes of getting to find it in giving up.
Point is, it’s very relevant and predictive to this infinite bot contribution to dead subs on Reddit, its just gonna bots talking to each other forever on there as actual active users dwindleYou don’t mean Asimov’s “The Last Question” do you?
I think it may have been, thanks!
This probably isn’t the story you’re thinking of, but “There will come soft rains” by Bradbury has similar themes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Will_Come_Soft_Rains_(short_story)
May be one of the books in the Foundation series.
so nothing new? most main sub are juste pure repost and mass upvoted.
