Grocery chain Trader Joe’s is joining Elon Musk’s SpaceX in arguing that the US labor board, which is prosecuting cases against both companies, is unconstitutional.
I’m disappointed. I really thought that TJs was more like Costco. You look at the employees and they are always smiling, just like Costco. Guess not all things are equal.
The founder died, shit has changed drastically in the last 5 years or so
Gotcha. Too bad.
I looked this up and he hasn’t been at the helm on the company since 1988, and had already sold it to the Aldi founder long before.
Who said those two sentences are related?
Trader Joe’s is overpriced Aldi. Their employees are told to smile, just like everywhere else you go that employees are always smiling. Nobody’s that happy at work, and that shouldn’t come as a surprise to anybody at this point.
Trader Joe’s is owned by Aldi
Different brother. There’s Aldi Sud and Aldi Nord (I think that’s right), who have common family history but are now separate companies. One operates the US chain called Aldi and the other owns TJ’s.
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Trader Joe’s is owned by the OTHER Aldi, which is related historically but entirely separate from the Aldi stores in the US.
Interestingly the US is the only country to have both companies other than Germany itself, and even there one is in one half of the country and the other in the other.
Different aldis.
The frozen stuff is WAY better at TJs; my local Aldi has mostly stuff that’s cheap because it’s about to expire
If I want frozen garbage, I can buy it at any grocery store. No need to go to an overpriced place that leaves most of their floor space empty. I legit do not get trader joe’s or why people like it. Easily have that place is just frozen crap, and the other half is random vegetables and candy.
My grocery store’s frozen crap has never been as good, interesting, or inexpensive as it is at Trader Joe’s. It’s not that the stuff there is great or cheap, but there’s a bit of variety that is harder to find in the Krogers and Safeways and they do switch things up so every few months there are new options. For me, between variety and C quality, vs the same basic American stuff and somewhere between F to B quality, I’ll take the former. That’s why I don’t really get frozen stuff at Costco.
Joe literally ate the motherfuckers who don’t smile.
Costco aint much better and are very anti union, the warehouse workers get treated better than their counterparts at Walmart but the company doesn’t give a fuck about its workers, just its image of being ‘one of the good ones’. Their response to workers in Virginia forming a union is pretty telling, they also don’t give out a annual cost of living raise even for “exceptional workers”, its maxes out at 3%
I really do believe that most people who work there enjoy their job and are happy there. Costco has also released a statement about how to become a better company in response to unionization.
Yes because they don’t want a union to form because then Costco loses control and potentially their reputation. Even if you like you’re job, which I know from personal experience many a Costco do, being in a union is good, it give you a say in the way your work life goes. Costco does not want that which is why they play the song and dance, and yes some of that does equate to a better situation than similar companies, but they are still paying the lowest they believe they can get away with . Being better than their competitors like Walmart, Amazon, and Target is a really low bar
Costco isn’t anti union
I know I’m in the minority likely, but Trader Joes is shit it isn’t because it can’t survive unionization. Just because your chips are organic doesn’t make buying it from overly outgoing cashiers any healthier. Prepackaged junk food is prepackaged junk food and they sell a ton of it. Frozen dinners are still sodium bombs even though they don’t have “preservatives”. That said, fuck these two anti-union shitstains of companies.
They can survive it. Every company can survive it. They just don’t want to give up their dictatorship.
I shop at union grocery stores. The boutique chains see this as a something to exploit instead of a feature. Many union chains are local too, most boutique ones are national.
I don’t understand the trader Joe’s love. It’s a grocery store with a poor selection of fruits, vegetables, and fresh meats. They have a decent wine and beer selection. It’s basically half frozen stuff, it’s maybe higher quality than other places, but it’s just frozen shit.
I was so disappointed the first time I went to Trader Joe’s. It had been so hyped up and people made it sound like a mini Jungle Jim’s. Then it opened and it was just a more expensive Aldi.
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It was better back in the early 2000s, in my opinion for two main reasons. First, the prices and quality were better. Second, and biggest of all, they carried a wide variety of products that had a limited presence in many American supermarkets, namely vegan/vegetarian meals, organic crap, and eclectic snacks. Most major grocers have caught up with demand and now they don’t stand out all that much.
The hype is definitely not worth it.
It’s usually just cheaper groceries but with a smaller selection
It wasn’t cheaper in my experience, kroger and meijer managed to be the same or cheaper on all the things I commonly bought.
I mean they make good cookie butter
But that’s about it imo
Come on, the quality of food at Trader Joe’s is FAR better than the brands you find at a Safeway.
Most of the food at Trader Joe’s is just white label with fancy packaging. It’s the same food you find at a Safeway.
There are a few specific items that Trader Joe’s is notable for… but ditto for Safeway, Hannaford’s, Food Lion, Star, Superstore, and SaveOn - I think two decades ago Trader Joe’s was a trailblazer in high quality offerings but they’ve slowly compromised for profits and competitors have realized that high quality offerings are valued by consumers - not just price.
That’s exactly my experience. We loved Trader Joe’s in the early 2000s. Now there isn’t much there we can’t find elsewhere, and the quality isn’t as good as what it once was. What IS exclusive to them is often artificially scarce to drive up price and demand. Looking at you, ube mochi pancake mix.
I have to admit to experiencing the same. I have fond memories from my undergrad years when I lived a few blocks from one and basically based my diet around them. Maybe they’re not the same anymore.
Interesting. Maybe I’m holding on to nostalgia.
It’s absolutely not, and it’s almost certainly grown, picked, packed, and shipped by the same slave labor.
The anti-unionization stuff makes me sad. They’re really the only ones around here who carry vegetarian/vegan options. If I go to the chain store next door the prices are quite a bit more expensive, and all they have is a small corner of the refrigerated section of vegetarian options of questionable expiration.
The no preservatives label needs better regulation. Every food that has it is loaded with either salt or sugar. The reason that they are loaded with salt and/or sugar is because salt and sugar are two of the oldest and most used preservatives. And that’s my soapbox, thanks for listening.
The other one that pisses me off is no added nitrates (except for all the nitrates in the additives we added). Just be honest, companies. It’s really not hard to not be total shitbags.
They have a lot of prepackaged junk but they do have good prices on bananas, blueberries and nuts. They also have a decent super high fiber, low sugar bran cereal.
I forgot to mention the little Persian cucumbers. They don’t always have them in stock at the co-op.
But going forward, I’ll get my fruit from more ethical stores
Dont tell anyone but you can just pull them off trees and its free, nature wont even stop you.
I get as much as I can from the farmer’s market but where I live there will never be a banana season
I’m also of the opinion that produce is seasonal and should be treated that way. Some times of the year we shouldn’t have bananas, blueberries, etc. They don’t care where we get the good priced fruits from. Could be Peru or Vietnam, they don’t care as long as they are on the shelves for consumers to buy. That ain’t how we survive a climate crisis.
What the F, TJ? Want to make a loyal customer of 15+ years quit? This is how you do it. We’re a union family, we vote with our dollars too.
Presumably union families have more dollars to vote with as well.
Where are you gonna shop that’s better? Kroger? Safeway? Walmart? Whole foods? It’s fucked up.
Kroger and Safeway are unionized
I used to shop at a kroger that had a UFCW sticker on the sliding doors out front. They represent 835,000 grocery workers. Unions have a strong foothold in American Grocery stores. Sounds like TJ’s needs em.
Your local co-op?
IGA!
My qfc has a sticker at the front door that says the staff is unionized, so I’m shopping always there.
More than the chain l, I think it’s better to shop of places that are unionized
There has been a push to unionize some TJ locations.
Here is an interview with one of the organizers from MA.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/from-below/id1713434162?i=1000634877458
Not all locations, such as my local one, are unionized. Hopefully there is some good progress soon since some lawsuits against the unions were tossed out of court late last year.
Edit: Just want to clarify that the existence of unions doesn’t justify their anti-union rhetoric, I do believe that corporate is shitty. I recently learned about their union struggle and wanted to share the story
A TJ’s in my area unionized last year. I went there and congratulated as many staff as I could find. You could tell which way they voted by their response to my good tidings. Most seemed to really appreciate the support.
No more Trader Joe’s for me.
The end of our patronage of TJs.
*Traitor Joe’s
Well played
I guess labour has no choice but to go back to the old style of negotiating. Aka. Rocking up at the bosses house on mass and ‘asking nicely’ for a raise.
Don’t forget bidding them “a very good day” if they see them in the streets.
Wow so that kinda fuckin sucks. Guess I’m down to market basket.
Is this the Michael Scott defense? Instead of yelling “I declare bankruptcy” they yell “I declare this unconstitutional”?
It’s all very “Sovereign Citizen”.
“The working class having a board that helps them is unconstitutional” for those who need a direct translation
We can go back to mob violence if they don’t like our mutually agreed upon legal framework???
Being in agreement with Elon Musk is a clear sign you’re an idiot.
Hmm. I couldn’t read the full article because of a paywall, but from what I understand, the constitutionality of the NLRB was upheld by the Supreme Court in NLRB v. Jones & Laughlin Steel Corp. 301 U.S. 1 (1937). I’m not sure there is any foundation to contemporary claims that the NLRB is unconstitutional.
As with overturning Roe v. Wade, the legal foundation will be “our conservative cult says so”.
“ThE NLRb isn’T in the cONSTITutIoN!!1!” - The Supreme Court, probably
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They’ll have to find some different basis for suing, just like the Dobbs case. The Supreme Court today is most certainly less friendly toward the idea of the NLRB than the Supreme Court of 1937.
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I have only seen one explanation that Space X has made. Since it denies them a trial by jury then it is unconstitutional. That seems to be the crux of their complaint.
Oh, it’s “corporations are people” again. Bleh.
I suspect that’ll be the answer. Fine give them a jury. I don’t they’ll fair well
Im about to declare corporations unconstitutional. Their heads are so big their thoughts need launch vectors to get to their lobbyists.
You’re joking, but you can also do more than joke. Amend the constitution: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Move_to_Amend.
Never spent a dollar there. Won’t start now, thanks
It used to be a good store, but I guess the owner died and they’ve gone anti-union. I have not been in one for a few years and won’t ever now (unless they change their tune).
