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    What’s annoying and nobody seems to grasp is that even if the tax was on the foreign producer instead of the domestic consumer, the end result would be the same thing. They wouldn’t just eat the cost lol.

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      This becomes so obvious when the tariff is over 100%. The supplier is obviously not paying 125% of the sale price in taxes.

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    If an entire cult is too fucking stupid to recognize what’s hurting them, then how the fuck could tariffs be MAGA’s death knell like some people are saying? You could literally douse some of these people in gasoline and tell them, ‘I need you to burn for just a couple seconds for Trump,’ and they’d fucking do it.

    I saw some asshole in an interview saying, “Sometimes you gotta walk through the fire first.”

    Like…Yeah? Maybe. Just don’t start by lighting yourself the fuck on fire. 😕🔫

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      It took Nazis months in Stalingrad to realize Hitler didn’t give a fuck about them. Shit, a lot of them probably died out there in the snow and ice thinking they were doing a great job for him.

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      tariffs can and will be the death knell if he comes back to those original rates.

      No real effects from tariffs have happened yet across the board so the impact isn’t truely felt. Even chinese imports don’t have the tariffs yet because it’s only goods that were on boats after it took effect.

      We won’t see the downstream impact of even 10% tariffs for months. It won’t be until sales slump that people start getting fired and then sales will get even worse…

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        There have already been plenty of real effects from HitlerPig’s tariffs, just not the financial ones. This latest tariff scam, the third one in three months, has eroded the confidence, respect, and trust of the entire world, and it will be YEARS before it returns, if ever.

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          Yes, but it takes time for people here to realize the effects of that.

          Less travel to the US? Well we’ll start seeing layoffs in holiday destinations… but probably not that hard, yet. As things continue to decline and prices increase it will get worse, and worse, and worse.

          Most of this stuff takes time to ramp up is my point. We still haven’t seen the effects of deporting hundreds of thousands to millions of immigrants in legal status before being arbitrarily revoked, and that will absolutely cause some major issues in all kinds of places. They were paying tens of billions of dollars in taxes per year based on 2022 data and getting no benefits from it. Even the immigration process is not free, you pay for all the workers who touch your case with all the fees involved. I know, my wife is living that. We’re not talking about our lawyer either, literally the filing fees paid to the US.

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      People were all ‘Dave portnoy is talking about losing money!’’ Yeah well, if you look into it, he still 100% supports Trump.

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        I think I’ve finally seen Dave enough times before Portnoy to stop the “I’ve read he is a great drummer…I’m not a fan of prog rock at all…why is he being mentioned” repeat that was going on every time I read the name.

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    PLEASE be Nice to Him! He THOUGHT Electing Trump would mean he could PUNCH TRANS KIDS in Public and Run Over Immigrant Children! He DIDNT think it would Hurt HIS Wallet! He’s WHITE For Pete’s Sake! Show some SYMPATHY!

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      Where “are” your QUOTATION MARKS? Breaking grammar RULES is “punishable” and NOT GOOD!

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    Is it surprising that the people who thought Mexico would pay for a border wall also don’t understand how tariffs work?

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    They STILL don’t get it? Everyone has been yelling about exactly what would happen. The news, social media, people protesting in the streets… even Fox News is critical of the Tariffs now. Journalists are bringing it up at White House press conferences and getting reaponses from the Press Secretary. This is not a secret. What sort of social bubble/echo chamber, do these people live in? Just fully bought in to the kool-aid. Useful idiots, the lot of them!

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      They have been conditioned to believe that the mainstream media is evil and constantly lies to them in order to facilitate the woke communist takeover and destruction of the USA.

      So it would be an understatement to say they are working from a position of willful ignorance.

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          I really don’t want it to be the answer either… But as I get older it’s the only thing that makes sense. And honestly I don’t think it’s limited to party lines (which has me rethinking some of my beliefs - what’s the point of supporting the party that aims for a social safety net if they’re too feckless to ever make it happen).

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        People are incredibly stupid and technology / politics isolates that stupidity and builds upon it to make mindless propaganda drones.

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      Social bubbles/echo chambers is exactly what has created this. Why did Musk buy X and Trump created his own social media?

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        Because Musk accidentally made an offer for Twitter and because Trump needed to take foreign bribes?

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          Now, why was Musk able to get the Saudis and others to help him bankroll that purchase?

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      These kind of people get all their news from FreedomEagle on facebook or some angry guy with a red face and oakleys on youtube because mainstream news is woke dei

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      To be fair, everyone has been yelling about a lot of things. I even notice a lot of stupid things said against Trump, which is frustrating, because imagine you’re hearing all those stupid things said and you’re not already committed to an anti-Trump ideology - then how will you believe when you hear the real anti-Trump things said?

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        Having half an ounce of curiosity, sense, and genuine interest in how the world works is a good start. What’s sad is that that is apparently asking too much.

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    What’s to explain? You got lied to by a liar who says he never lies, and you believed him.

    It’s like complaining that you didn’t realize the Leopard you elected would have spots, when he’s ALWAYS had spots.

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      Probably the whole reason behind it. A tax that your deeply tax-hating clientele is not recognizing. And also a regressive tax, that hurts poor people disproportionately harder then rich people, compared to taxes like income tax.

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      During the first rodeo the cult liked to use the phrase “he’s your president, so act like it”. I am still not sure what that was supposed to mean. Might be poetic to comment it on their tariff complaints and imply they are being disloyal leftists for not paying tariffs.

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    You can’t explain it to them. Not even by using toy cars or gobstoppers.

    “There’s none so deaf as those who will not listen”

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    If he’s 100% Trump, the Trump tariff is $100. Simple.

    Tell him to buy $23 worth of $TRUMP coin or he’ll be deported for ripping off his lord and saviour.

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      I am kind of surprised he has not pumped it a few more times. For a while I was almost thinking of buying in a bit. Not because I think it is innovative or anything, but because I was expecting him to pump it a few times as he is bribed.