• BaroqueInMind@kbin.social
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    The new strategy should be armed protests that promise violence to the politicians and their families. Anything short of that is just farts.

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    Protesting does not do anything because politians are not accountable to voters. People who they are accountable to don’t give two fucks if pleb burn down parts of cities. They will get contracts to clean it up.

    Hurt their profits is the only language they understand.

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      The people protesting are most likely a extreme minority. Also they are often politically affiliated which accomplishes nothing

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    1 year ago

    The answer is a general strike, but I have no fucking idea how we’d pull that off in the USA without the majority becoming homeless.

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    I’m telling you, an army of vuvuzela-players and mimes to follow elected officials around in public, with a shift roster to get 24/7 coverage. No media interviews without the droning hum of a vuvuzela, no photo opportunities without a sneaky mime making an exaggerated lewd pose in the background, no pleasant meals with lobbyists without a distant but audible brrrrrrrrrrrr.

    The media chooses not to report on peaceful protests all the time, but they always give coverage to Gaetz, Cruz and Graham talking absolute shit. Make them edit the videos to take out mimes and vuvuzelas.

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      Yeah obvs the police would side with and defend the politicians, you’d never be allowed to do that.

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            And that’s how you get revenge killings and more death and suffering. Humanity has tried murder a few more times than peaceful protest already to “solve problems” and it hasn’t created a safer world for innocent people or better lives for the poor or sustainable environmental practices.

            First you are concerned police won’t let people play vuvuzela, but you’re not concerned that they’ll torture and kill you for murder? Or is it because you are ok with letting others do the dirty work for you?

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              It’s simple.

              I know they’ll suppress any peaceful revolt, so the only logical step left is active revolt.

              Also this is a war, you can play pacifist all you want but don’t complain when you get killed.

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                I’m not playing pacifist, I’m trying to determine the best course of action with the least suffering.

                I know they’ll suppress any peaceful revolt, so the only logical step left is active revolt.

                Which active revolts would you point to as successes to model your tactics on? What was it about those that made them succeed? Are you sure it was the violence, or was it other contributing factors?

                but don’t complain when you get killed

                And which target have you chosen to sacrifice your life for? Are you happy to have the hospital your family are in bombed when it’s determined there are “enemy combatants” inside?

                Maybe instead of adding fire to fire, we could try to stop selling oil to the people holding lighters and deciding fire extinguishers are useless when plain water doesn’t work like we hoped.

                The people who benefit from war are the tank makers and gun sellers. Everyone is aghast when industry is causing climate change and then… turning around to fuel the military industrial complex to solve problems war has also failed to solve. Brilliant. It will surely work this time!

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                  If you want the least suffering, you must end long-term suffering.

                  The best course of action is for governments to acknowledge the problems caused by our current way of being and bring about abrupt change for the betterment of the people, but they will willfully never choose the best course of action.

                  Are you happy to see millions suffering and dying every day for easily solvable problems?